All, With the inclusion of the debug option in pacman 4.1.0, I think it makes sense to do something with this in the official repositories. I've sifted through some bug reports asking for inclusion of the debug symbols in a separate package or repository officially for testing purposes. With [extra] and [community] approaching 1.5 and 2 megabytes respectively, I think that adding debug symbols directly into these repositories would be a bad idea as it would probably add ~50% to those databases, and I've already seen some people complain about the sizes. What I would propose (and I've implemented this locally fine) is to have a separate series of repositories named [$repo-debug] that only contain the -debug packages, allowing those that don't bother with testing or debugging to simply not include them in their pacman.conf, but if there is something that they want to run valgrind or whatever on, they can simply enable the right [*-debug] repo for that package, and once they are done debugging simply remove that repo from their list along with the package. For really large packages, this will save people a while lot of time recompiling dependencies for these symbols. I talked to ioni on the channel, and he said that your repo scripts do not have support for this. If it's too much of a hassle, putting them in the same repo wouldn't be that terrible, honestly. Thank you, -- William Giokas | KaiSforza GnuPG Key: 0x73CD09CF Fingerprint: F73F 50EF BBE2 9846 8306 E6B8 6902 06D8 73CD 09CF ps: Sorry about sending it to the wrong list, first. (I actually had this queued up for a while...)