On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Heiko Baums <lists@baums-on-web.de> wrote:
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:41:54 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger <anthony@xtfx.me>:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons@linuxaudio.org> wrote:
Wouldn't most users associate /media with cd, dvd etc. ? Seems like on odd name for what systemd uses it for.
for as long as i remember anyway, the DE will often mount stuff there automatically, ergo it's not safe to put manual mount points there. /mnt is specifically reserved for admin, so /mnt/media is safe.
This is not true. If this is what some DEs are doing, than you should file a bug report to the DE's upstream.
well ... gnome3 is doing it right now, and IIRC kde4 did as well, been quite awhile since i used that though. i want to say xfce did it too ... but it's been even longer since i used that. this functionality is provided thru udisks/dbus, and it seems perfectly reasonable to me.
under systemd, /media is a tmpfs.
The same for systemd.
the same what? file a bug? systemd does this because the mounts/directory structure are ephermal. there may be other reasons i'm unaware of, but i don't see a problem.
There's a Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard which says that /media is meant for removable media and /mnt is for temporarily mounted filesystems. Whatever the difference between an optical media and a temporary filesystem may be.
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT
yes i'm quite familiar with the FHS, and have read the spec in depth, as packaging/deployment is of great interest to me. while my own designs take the FHS into consideration, there is no reason to believe their are not better schemes, esp. consideration the current age of virtualization and usage patterns. IMO at least, the document is clearly outdated, and i've read more than once that the maintainers are non-responsive to requests for amendment/alteration.
I know that Lennart Poettering doesn't care much about Linux standards and likes to declare his non working crap as standard. But fortunately he is not a standardization authority.
So if a software doesn't follow those FHS you should file a bug report to upstream.
well, i can't say i care much about the FHS either. IMO, systemd/pulseaudio work fantastic, and are orders of magnitude better than their predecessors, and only move the ecosystem forward. i also make extensive use of avahi/libnss-mdns/libnss-myhost ... soooo, they seem to work OK ;-) there are many contributors to these projects ... he's not a one-man band.
And yes, /media is supposed to contain subdirectories for cd, dvd, etc. Nevertheless /media was also invented by SUSE in the past, because originally those optical media was also meant to be mounted to subdirectories of /mnt. Nevertheless meanwhile FHS was changed to include /mnt as well as /media for whatever reasons.
i see no reason to include those directories unconditionally, nor any reason to avoid alternatives. -- C Anthony