Hi, I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd. Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of things. Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already mentioned in the wiki [2]. Unfortunately I couldn't find any statement as to whether Arch will follow along with this. I'm running GNOME right now and at least have two dependencies for ConsoleKit: gdm and gnome-session. I couldn't find anything in regard to this issue in the bug tracker, so I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already? I know there have been some discussions about systemd in the past, but are there any definite plans to switch "completely" to systemd at some point in the future? It seems that the package "initscripts-systemd" is more or less on feature parity with "initscripts" already. The reason why I'm asking is that I don't think that this kind of "double tracked" approach we are currently following, will work very well in the long run, especially when systemd is superseding more and more other packages. Don't get me wrong: I'm really glad about the fact that Arch Linux is supporting systemd so well. By no means I want to depreciate the work you guys have done so far. I do absolutely think that we have to provide both solutions in order to provide a smooth upgrade path. But personally I think that at some point we have to make a choice - just for the sake of simplicity. Personally I would choose systemd ;). Best regards, Karol Babioch [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ConsoleKit