On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:19:31 +0200 Tobias Frilling <tobias@frilling-online.de> wrote:
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On 09/27/2012 12:43 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
And we are back...
Sir, you've got some yarbles. IMHO the cause of all these flaming is that arch-general is too, well, general. What about if we would split this list up into a list for technical questions (e.g. arch-support) and a more philosophical, rambling one (e.g. arch-discussion), so that everyone could choose his/her own poison?
P.S.: This is definitely a help request to make the make the arch mailing lists a happy place again ;-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/
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Imo it's not a problem that arch-general has a wide topic. You have to remember that it actually worked well for years, it's really only in the last 6-12 months or so that arch-general have really started to go downhill. Here is how it goes (in my eyes) 1) community is small, S/N ratio is awesome, discussions are generally "friendly" 2) community starts growing fast, and brings with it a lower S/N ratio 3) more flame-wars etc starts to happen, causing some of the "good" people to leave. S/N ratio gets even worse. 4) almost none of the devs nor old-timers and the more friendly/knowledgeable people are left. S/N goes to hell, bad press happens because of it, just increasing the downward spiral. I can only see two things that can really help slow down/stop/revert the spiral: 1) Moderation. Get rid of the serial trollers/flamers 2) Get more devs and "good" people to join and be active. Where the second point probably is the most important.