On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 12:34 -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Thomas Dziedzic <gostrc@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:01 PM, C Anthony Risinger <anthony@extof.me wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Ray Rashif <schiv@archlinux.org> wrote:
On 28 January 2011 01:36, Thomas S Hatch <thatch45@gmail.com> wrote: > I have been passively working on a similar project called quarters, but I > must admit that my motivation is somewhat low not knowing if the
is > in demand. So here is my question, do we think that something like
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Thomas S Hatch <thatch45@gmail.com> wrote: project this
> would be a benefit to Arch? Is this the type of project that should merit my > attention?
You have my personal full support.
Does this Koji allow people to upload their own .spec/.src packages and offer them a build? I'm thinking something like that for quarters would be good. We can separate the building into 3 categories:
== Distribution == This is where devs and TUs connect. If you can work out some kind of integration, it will be totally seamless. Subversion hooks can
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Thomas S Hatch <thatch45@gmail.com> wrote: trigger
the builds, which then are placed in the respective home folders in gerolde/sigurd. They can be auto uploaded with dbscripts as well but I don't know if that's a good idea, mainly because there needs to be inspection (namcap and other habits) before the binary gets served across the mirrors.
== Projects == Any third-party packaging initiative can hook up to the system, and in turn get their binaries cooked. No-one is responsible for bad packages.
== Community == Users submit a PKGBUILD and in turn can download a Pacman package. No-one is responsible for bad packages.
HAHA! I had not thought of that! I love it! The build system can build user packages from uploaded PKGBUILDS, I would need to add some extra security on the chroots (or build them in super thin virtual machines), but that would be great, users could verify that their packages were top notch before submitting them to the AUR and TUs could check packages much more easily.
As for the svn hooks, I was actually looking at polling the scms, this way an scm can be completely detached from the builder and the builder can just arbitrarily build from any old scm. I think that the solution here is to configure the scms with specific criteria, so that they build into specific repos.
And thanks for your support Ray, it means a lot :)
did somebody say distributed AUR?
add a little P2P sharing of the PKG bits into localized repositories and you got yourself a winner.
C Anthony
Honestly, a build system could check AUR packages for cleanliness and make a binary repo of working clan packages?
We have been discussing this in the TU chat, and there is a lot of excitement about it, I am going to post some degign docs on the wiki here in a few days (give me some time to put it together :) ) and then we can have a free for all on how we want this to work.
In the meantime, keep throwing ideas at me so I can work them into the design!
Thanks again for the feedback!
-Thomas S Hatch
Hey, as I said in the irc, I also have given my full support for this. I am willing to work on this also.
I see a lot of potential especially in the aur portion of this system. Mainly because it would guarantee that pkgs in the aur are "correct" in the sense that they have correct dependencies, makedependencies and proper variables (no $startdir) and that then can be built in a clean chroot.
Also, just to reiterate what I've said to Thomas Hatch, I have implemented an aur clean chroot build system that works recursively: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=111366
Yes, aurtools will prove to be a great asset for the builder.
FYI, I don't think I mentioned this, so far I have been calling the builder quarters, since we all know that in the arcade quarters are what really feeds pacman!
My project is on google code (I will be moving it to github so that making it official will be easier) and you are welcome to look it over and look at me preliminary design doc.
http://code.google.com/p/quarters/
Keep in mind, what is on google code will change dramatically based on your input!
With that all said, much of whats there will be replaced!
Hmmm just read all the mails and yes i am interested ;) except the idea of uploading to AUR and then building it, seems like a waste of resources. The idea of an automatic build robot for the repos is much more interesting, and for me it only seems interesting if you're doing a big rebuild. Or would you like the idea of scp src.tar.gz to your ~/autobuild on pkgbuild.com or any other build server. Or massive rebuilds based on libs where you put a new perl/whatever in a buildchroot and just upload your source packages and let them query then put the output / packages build on some webpage. So before coding get's done i am interested in the documents, design etc. then I would love to help out ;) -- Jelle van der Waa