It would appear that on Jul 4, Andre "Osku" Schmidt did say:
i got lost in your mail... but i do see from your subject that you should use `pacman -Syu` and not just `pacman -Su`, as the package database wont be updated without `y`...
Sorry for my natural "wordyness" but I do have a hard time with brevity. If I hadn't been trying to keep that book down to a couple of chapters I'd have mentioned that I use pacman Sy as a separate command. It's nice that I could combine them into a single command. But on some systems I still use apt-get, and my ingrained habit of starting with a separate refresh command keeps me out of trouble.
and for blank screen, maybe try kernel option `nomodeset`... and in next mail try to be more precise what you did and what happens...
OK I'll try that on my next reboot cycle. (just have to finish a few E-mail chores first.) I'll let you know what happens...
as you talk about "pop-ups", did you install xorg ? are you using a DE ? which gfx driver you installed for xorg ?...
fons@kokkinizita.net nailed that one... I did think that my overlong text did specify that the pop-ups came from the monitor, but Like you said, you got lost in my post. (Sorry) It would appear that on Jul 4, fons@kokkinizita.net did say:
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 11:51:12AM +0200, Andre Osku Schmidt wrote:
as you talk about "pop-ups", did you install xorg ? are you using a DE ? which gfx driver you installed for xorg ?...
The popups are those generated by the monitor when it doesn't get a valid signal. Having a Sony as well they sound familiar to me.
Things seem to go wrong well before Xorg gets involved. The nomodeset option willl probably provide a working system in RL 3. Once that is working we can have a closer look.
ABSOLUTELY. my next task _was_ supposed to be to open a lynx session on one console open to the wiki to remind myself HOW to use another console to get x working on an arch install... (This is only my second arch install ever. The first, on my laptop has worked out fairly well for me.) But I did have X running on that before they stopped passing control of the video back and forth between the kernel and the xserver. (Did I understand correctly that such control now resides only in the kernel whether x is up or not?) But in any case even when I do get X working I won't allow ANY display manager to control my boot/login process. If they take away startx I'll likely give up X before I'll use GDM, KDM, Entrance (etc...) Any graphical login prompt always makes me so uncomfortable that I forget why I was booting the durned computer in the first place. Heck I even insist on a text based grub menu for similar reasons. When I'm ready to put up with a GUI, I use startx, and not until... Still Like I told "Osku", I'll try that nomodeset kernel option and post the results in this thread. Thanks for the help guys. -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <<jtwdyp@ttlc.net>>