Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:55:28 +0000 schrieb Fons Adriaensen <fons@linuxaudio.org>:
Could be. My impression is based on talking with LP face to face. And yours ?
My is based on a bug report, upstream's solution for closing this bug report - this weird ALSA configuration which cripples those cards to pure stereo cards - and their response to the reopening of this bug report.
I fully agree that designing Gnome or KDE so they can't be installed easily without PA by a user who accepts the consequences of doing so (no desktop sounds) is a sign of *very crappy* engineering.
OTOH, if you use one of those desktops you can just suspend PA, start Jack and your apps and go on. I don't use Gnome or KDE, I don't have PA installed so I can't talk from experience. But I know that people are doing this all the time. For example Joern Nettingsmeier, who is probably using the most complex and advanced pro audio setups ever done in Linux, apparently has no problem with this.
OK, looks like there is a working workaround, but not a real solution. The solution would be a better engineering. Heiko