On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 18:46, Myra Nelson <myra.nelson@hughes.net> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 17:39, Ionut Biru <ibiru@archlinux.org> wrote:
I realize I can complete the update by pacman -Suf or pacman -Rdd libgsf-gnome then install the libgsf update but would think this would be handled by an install file included with the package. I would prefer not to bork my box so I thought I would ask first for a change.
now, why do you think that -f will solve every problem? -f is not for forcing updates when dependencies are not met!
Stop using -f.
Thanks for your assistance.
Myra
-- Ionuț
Thats's why I didn't use -f and have quit using -f, why I don't think it will solve every problem, why I ask for the proper procedure before I borked my box, and why I asked about it being taken care of by an install file. Lately I've seen several "user intervention needed" news postings and assumed this might be one of those cases. I intentionally pointed out
On 12/18/2011 07:04 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: the
wrong way to do this, sorry if I offended you.
Myra
No offense taken and I hope that my reply wasn't offensive.
I was only curios since I see a lot of our users using -f along with -Su and with -Sdd lately and maybe our manual is not clear enough.
As for original problem, nothing in our repository depended on that package and there wasn't any way to have it installed. But my logic seems to be faulty.
-- Ionuț
No offense taken, I just tend to shoot first and ask questions later. Your logic is not necessarily faulty. Mine may be an edge case from me destroying my pacman database and having to rebuild it about one year ago. I'm still finding extra packages that I don't need installed, remains of previously installed packges that don't show up with pacq, and if I run pacman -Qdt and used the output to uninstall orphan packages I'm not sure anything would work. I really need to do a complete reinstall but I've got my box setup the way I like and laziness is also a factor.
The only time I've used -Rdd is when I was using nvida packages from the AUR and had to remove everything to fix my screwup. I think to many people take the easiest way out when trying to fix something and -f solves the immediate problem. It took me awhile when I moved to Arch from crunchbang to get used to the power available with Arch and how to use it properly. The proper use is the key.
Clarifying the manual might help. If you don't mind I'll take a look at the man page and see if I can make the necessary changes. I also wonder about adding a message similar to the one that comes up when you try to run pacman without su or sudo [ error: you cannot perform this operation unless you are root. ] like [ warning: this option should only be used in extreme cases and/or if you know what you're doing ].
Thanks for your assistance.
Myra
-- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!
Or possibly an admonition to read the recently updated wiki pages that in-duh-viduals ( I'm guility ) don't do regularly. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!