On 2013-04-18 14:26, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name> wrote:
On 2013-04-17 22:04, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera I must say I do find it a bit off that a package with a conflicting name would be added without even attempting to contact the AUR maintainer. There was no rush to upload this package. You could have contacted him just to say what you were doing, but you didn't.
Hi Chris,
First, there was more than one packages in AUR (opensmtpd, opensmtpd-portable, etc). I hope others maintainers will not claims kinship. I have contacted, AUR opensmtpd maintainer by mail in march to ask him to update because the package was was out-of-date since weeks. He doesn't answer and it's not the same email that Hugo. I'm wondering if Hugo was maintainer of opensmtpd for more than 2 weeks.
Indeed, as I mentioned earlier on, the package I maintained was originally called opensmtpd-portable, since that's the name the devs gave the non-openbsd version originally. I'd been maintaining it for well over a year. I had contacted the maintainer of opensmtpd many, MANY times asking him to disown it (since he kept abandoning it), but he would just updated it every time I requested that. The other opensmptd related packge was opensmtpd-portable-snapshot, which follows the upstream -snapshot branchs (instead of the -release branch). The former maintainer of opensmtpd had finally orphaned opensmtpd two weeks ago, at which point I merged my old package's votes and comments into "opensmtpd". In any case, opensmtpd-portable and opensmtpd-portable-snapshot both had 7 votes, and maintained by me. opensmtpd was out-of-date about 5 months ago, and had just 2 votes. Even if the name differed, it's clear which one was the real up-to-date package. In any case, I don't want to extend this discussion any further, you contacted the at-the-time maintainer and I guess that's what matters. There's little point arguing about this any further.
I usually post a comment before removing package from AUR to notify the old maintainer. Do I have forgot? I think y're *very* light when you claims: you didn't contact the maintainer.
Anyway, it's pure courtesy and not really the real reason of the complain.
Secondly, I confirm, there was no rush. To give you more context, I've my own opensmtpd package running on my computers since the first releases of opensmtpd. Before pushing the package I telling myself : "Oh I it works correctly on my stuff for weeks, it's on abs for 1 week, I can push it to community". So, I'm not a serial packager !
Emotional comments, like your and Hugo come time to time, usually on aur-general, when packages are moved from AUR to community. AUR PKGBUILD are _not_ the property of the maintainer (even if he's a good guy who drink beer) and sending a mail can be automated by AUR to says : "You're package have been removed. Thanks for you support :)"
On the contraty, I'm glad to see it moved into community, but I would have greatly prefered to see a compatible package (ie: very similar flags, config paths, etc) to avoid having to "migrate" to it.
Cheers,
-- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://www.seblu.net GPG: 0x2072D77A
Cheers, -- Hugo Osvaldo Barrera