On Thursday 03 December 2009 12:19:58 and regarding:
On 03/12/09 18:14, Arvid Picciani wrote: [...]
I'll add some additional points: - it's implementation is large broken. how so? - most software depending on it, will crash when dbus file bug reports and get developers to write proper software. crashes, or fail to start uncracefully, or behave unexpected. i've honestly never seen dbus crash but then again i've experienced almost none of the issues people often complain about with Linux - some systems are actually not supported by hal while they are by udev and have system-v IPCs. got nothing to do with dbus - reinventing the wheel and calling it super-boat-2000 isn't going to help anyone. Instead of fixing problems, people constantly create new ones. lol - FDO is hierarchic and polical level. what Dbus is hierarchic on technical level. FDO wishes to provide a better experience to users by integrating all software nicely into one global truth. The Foss ecosystem is not hierarchic. The Foss ecosystem does not require a single truth to rule them all. The Foss ecosystem does not require to be competitive with OtherOs.
what does any of that have to do with dbus in a technical sense?
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Arvid Asgaard Technologies
As for dbus or related processes crashing and causing fits, I don't know the precise cause, but I suspect an attempted save via sftp or fish on a dbus based app that sent my server into a tailspin (note, the offending connection was from openSuSE 11.2 not Arch). See the 'Nov 17 03:28:04' entries below: Nov 17 03:08:41 nirvana sshd[22185]: Accepted publickey for david from 192.168.6.102 port 59448 ssh2 Nov 17 03:08:46 nirvana su: (to root) david on /dev/pts/3 Nov 17 03:10:01 nirvana /usr/sbin/cron[23394]: (david) CMD (/home/david/linux/scripts/Learn_as_spam_cron) Nov 17 03:12:01 nirvana /usr/sbin/cron[23414]: (drr) CMD (/usr/local/bin/Learn_as_spam_cron) Nov 17 03:14:01 nirvana /usr/sbin/cron[23430]: (deborah) CMD (/usr/local/bin/Learn_as_spam_cron) Nov 17 03:16:01 nirvana /usr/sbin/cron[23489]: (zachry) CMD (/usr/local/bin/Learn_as_spam_cron) Nov 17 03:18:01 nirvana /usr/sbin/cron[24289]: (sydney) CMD (/usr/local/bin/Learn_as_spam_cron) Nov 17 03:18:29 nirvana dhcpd: Wrote 0 deleted host decls to leases file. Nov 17 03:18:29 nirvana dhcpd: Wrote 0 new dynamic host decls to leases file. Nov 17 03:18:29 nirvana dhcpd: Wrote 38 leases to leases file. Nov 17 03:20:00 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.6.120 from 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:20:00 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.6.120 to 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:21:26 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.6.120 from 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:21:26 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.6.120 to 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:24:11 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.6.120 from 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:24:11 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.6.120 to 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:24:11 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:24:12 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.6.120 to 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:28:04 nirvana shadow[24998]: group already exists - group=ntadmin, by=0 Nov 17 03:28:04 nirvana dbus-daemon: Unable to reload configuration: Element <standard_system_servicedirs> not allowed inside <busconfig> in configuration file Nov 17 03:28:04 nirvana avahi-daemon[3764]: Disconnected from D-Bus, exiting. Nov 17 03:28:04 nirvana avahi-daemon[3764]: Got SIGQUIT, quitting. Nov 17 03:28:04 nirvana powersaved[4644]: ERROR (filter_function:98) DBus daemon disconnected. Trying to reconnect... Nov 17 03:28:04 nirvana avahi-daemon[3764]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.6.17. Nov 17 03:28:04 nirvana avahi-dnsconfd[3775]: read(): EOF Nov 17 03:28:07 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:28:21 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 4 times Nov 17 03:28:21 nirvana gconfd (david-1390): GConf server is not in use, shutting down. Nov 17 03:28:21 nirvana gconfd (david-1390): Error releasing lockfile: Failed to link '/tmp/gconfd-david/lock/1t1258450101ut827002u1000p1390r552977190k2414831832' to '/tmp/gconfd-david/lock/ior': No such file or directory Nov 17 03:28:21 nirvana gconfd (david-1390): Exiting Nov 17 03:28:22 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:29:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 15 times Nov 17 03:29:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:30:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 18 times Nov 17 03:30:07 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:31:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 20 times Nov 17 03:31:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:32:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 19 times Nov 17 03:32:09 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.6.120 from 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:32:09 nirvana dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.6.120 to 00:25:00:df:fe:2c (iPod-touch-2) via eth0 Nov 17 03:32:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:33:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 19 times Nov 17 03:33:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:34:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 19 times Nov 17 03:34:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:35:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 19 times Nov 17 03:35:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:36:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 19 times Nov 17 03:36:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:37:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 19 times Nov 17 03:37:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:38:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 18 times Nov 17 03:38:07 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:39:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 20 times Nov 17 03:39:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:40:07 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 19 times Nov 17 03:40:10 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Nov 17 03:40:57 nirvana syslog-ng[2458]: last message repeated 15 times Nov 17 03:40:57 nirvana named[4151]: client 192.168.6.149#51507: update '3111skyline.com/IN' denied Nov 17 03:40:58 nirvana console-kit-daemon[2480]: WARNING: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused -- David C. 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