I have spent some time over the last month or so rewriting the Arch initscripts in idiomatic bash -- since they rely on bash-specific features, trying to keep them fairly POSIX is rather a waste of time and a net performance loss -- using bash-style conditionals is about 30% faster when nothing needs to be touched on the filesystem and about 200% easier to read, and you can use bash regexps in place of most trivial uses of sed, grep, and awk when mangling parameters or variables -- the fewer short-lived processes we fork the better. You can browse changes I have made in the git repo @ http://git.fnordovax.org/arch-initscripts/log/?h=bashification and you can checkout my changes to play around with from git://fnordovax.org/~victor/arch-initscripts There is a gigantic whitespace fixup patch at the end, all it does is fix all the whitespace errors I introduced while hacking and reformat everything to a consistent indentation style (emacs shell-script mode, if you are interested). I have tested these changes on a VM and on my local laptop. I inlcuded a PKGBUILD that will build an initscripts-git package, but be sure to backup and restore your rc.*local, inittab, and rc.conf files because they will get nuked the first time you install it. Questions, comments, flames, etc. welcome. I can also spam the list with patches if y'all really want. -- Victor Lowther LPIC2 UCP RHCE