-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2012 01:25 AM, Daniel Wallace wrote:
http://www.archlinux.org/news/install-media-20120715-released/
If is not on the iso because it is broken. It has plenty of bugs which you can see for yourself in the bug tracker https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=6
It definitly needs a patch for the fact that grub is no longer a package in the repositories, the iso comming out soon, 20120804 will have grub2 on it so people with efi should be able to use it. The partitioning has been long broken in the testing isos. And aif has no maintainer. If you want to help get it back onto the iso, go read the releng mailing list. Other than that, learn to use the new install scripts. They basically simplify the way you have always been able to install Archlinux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_Existing_Linux . This works because the livecd is an Existing Linux installation. For more information about the install scripts see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Install_Scripts and help update the beginners guide where it needs to be changed.
If you are going to complain how this isn't K.I.S.S. here is a blogpost from Pierre Schmitz on how Archlinux was originally installed https://pierre-schmitz.com/how-your-parents-installed-arch/
Dan, Thank you for pointing out the problems with AIF, I wasn't aware that it was a broken as it was. I had never encountered install problems with it, even with fakeraid/mdraid installs. You read me wrong, and I admit I could have been a bit more articulate, but at 0000 and just wanting a quick vbox install to test new TDE packages on, I was a bit taken when there was no AIF. I'm not so much complaining as I am intending to foster a discussion about why a distro of Arch's caliber ditched its installer with no working replacement. (I know, it all comes down to manpower available, but at what cost?) The crux of the discussion I guess, should really be on how to balance the desire to immediately release the latest upstream change verses insuring the change can be released without breaking other parts of the Arch system. The issue here with AIF/grub2 is a perfect example. grub is old and needs replacing, but Arch dropped grub and replaced it with grub2 while at the same time dropping AIF, which left Arch with no installer. It just seems that sometimes a better or more well thought out migration path could be put in place that would eliminate these type of surprises. This isn't a complaint, this is open discussion hoping to foster a better way of avoiding loss of capability in the distro. If arch wasn't that good of a distro, I wouldn't devote the time to trying to think though these issues and find solutions to make Arch work better. It is, so it is worth thinking though whether there is a better way to do things like this. I'll add to the beginners guide so there is a bit more guidance with the manual install. - -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAdXK4ACgkQZMpuZ8Cyrcg5OwCdFHb4fuIC+JgD35TIAYKIPCM8 HFoAn3h3mg7bqeSPqqVYXS4vxGOmG2FJ =0iN0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----