On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis <grbzks@xsmail.com>wrote:
Yaro Kasear wrote:
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 18:13:04 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
Thomas S Hatch <thatch45@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes the systemd topic keeps popping up, right now we don't know if certain upstream changes are going to force Arch into using systemd
or
not.
I dont think such a topic keeps popping up. In fact I dont remember reading a discussion between Arch developers about it, ever. I could probably go on ranting about stuff thats been shoved down users mouths the last years for months but its futile and a waste of time.
It was a discussion that popped up here, a debate between users who felt replacing sysvinit was completely unneeded to those who seemed to want to use systemd for some useless, unneeded feature maybe less than 1% of Arch users were going to actually use.
I guess you mean http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/32759 Didnt enjoy skimming through it much, except maybe this part: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/32874 And indeed, it was just user talk. The only developer who got even remotely interested in participating got flamed.
As for adding SELinux support in base but keeping it turned off by default, +1
Although this isnt a vote, mine was for no selinux at all, so its just
:)
Selinux is another unneeded thing, but even worse is that it practically requires a doctorate in computer science to manipulate. Can't deny its security, though. +1 to leaving it out of Arch, not that anyone's asking Arch to.
All these seem like the natural sideffects of Arch's growth along with the (d)evolution (as in degeneration) of Linux.
---- Greg
Thanks for the link, I did not want to bring up SELinux yet, because I will not be getting to it for a few months, but this will help a great deal! -Thomas S Hatch