---------------------------------------- From: Eli Schwartz via arch-general <arch-general@archlinux.org> Sent: Thu Oct 31 20:16:18 CET 2019 To: <arch-general@archlinux.org> Cc: Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@archlinux.org> Subject: Re: [arch-general] new packaging of the kernel/mkinitcpio/kmod
On 10/31/19 2:11 PM, Geo Kozey via arch-general wrote:
What was the reason for not using kernel-install[1] standard instead of all of those Arch's exclusive hooks again??
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/kernel-install.html
What was the reason for suggesting to use kernel-install non-standard Fedora tool that does gross things in a gross way instead of "all those tools" (all one of them) which do the exact same thing in a more KISS manner that respects user choice, makes it clear what you're using and when you're using it, and helps track files properly in pacman?
As the link suggests, it's systemd tool not Fedora one. I don't think Arch has anything against systemd. As I understand there will be two tools that deal with kernel install now: mkinitcpio hook and dracut hook. kernel-install could replace both. They can just call it. Moreover as I read the long term plan was to replace mkinitcpio with dracut and dracut is already integrated with kernel-install because Fedora (yay!) uses them both. That means it would be possible to outsource whole initramfs creation process upstream and free up downstream resources for something else.
I don't understand your loaded question, but this game of "let's assume things and then yell at people for doing things the same way they worked for many many years" sure is fun!
There was neither yelling or assumptions, just a question. Also things that worked for many many years are changing which is what triggered whole discussion.
P.S. Put down your question mark key. There's no need to act quite *that* shocked that no one drank the Fedora kool-aid.
I didn't noticed double question mark until I read your reply. Sorry. Yours sincerely G. K.