On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Rémy Oudompheng <remyoudompheng@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Nicholas MIller <nick.kyky@gmail.com wrote:
That seems to be one of the more well thought out (not pro), responces to systemd,
Thank you. My intent was to start an intelligent discussion. The rants and raves are going no where. I'm not necessarily against systemd, just the PTB's upstream dictating how Linux is and can be used. To me Linux is about choice, unlike the OS I used for so many years. My other goal is to get
On 2012/8/17 Myra Nelson <myra.nelson@hughes.net> wrote: the
devs involved to think about how to help the Arch community in general. If Arch is what you make of it, don't take that choice away.
The tools dictate how to use the system. Archlinux has never dictated which tools to use, and the "move to systemd" is not more a dictation about which tool to use than anything before. Arch is still what you make of it, some tools just don't have alternatives and you are welcome to develop one of them to help that choice.
Nobody is "removing an alternative" here, it's just cleaning up the dead, the community is free to revive them. I don't see how this discussion is different from the other ones. Most of the discussions are based on the assumption that we currently have working boot scripts in bash. This one is too.
Rémy.
Remy: Culling the herd never hurts and I'm not a firm believer that the current bash scripts are perfect. My goal was to entice a lower tone, more rational, not have to sort through all the bull shit conversations. As I pointed out somewhere earlier, my brain doesn't process information the same way most do and I get bore quickly sorting through the other posts for real information. Hard data is true information, information equals power, and distilled information is the best there is, but trying to sort through the rants and raves it completely beyond me. I have to map things out like logic gates: If xyz then blah blah else if jkl etc end if In other words, why oop still eludes me to this day. There are certain transtions in my transitors that are broken and I need intelligent responses like yours, Tom's, and the blog Allan posted to Planet Arch to wend my way through things. Sorry if I seemed to have caused offending and extra noise. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!