On 2012/8/15 Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Am 15.08.2012 13:34, schrieb Felipe Contreras:
1./ Be a small simple binary
The systemd main binary is not very large (larger than sysvinit's /sbin/init, but not by much).
But that binary alone is useless, and certainly not *simple*.
/sbin/init from sysvinit alone is useless. What is your point?
The rest are rather simple scripts (in the case of Arch Linux).
And you are still ignoring the fact that systemd is anything but *simple*. How convenient to ignore that argument.
Here are my two cents about that: * I don't care about having a faster boot if the sequence is incorrect or buggy (or, worse, leaves me with an unbootable system) * I don't care about having a simpler boot if it doesn't work * I don't care about systemd or bash scripts as long as it is maintained and bug-fixed. The situation is: * I hate bash * I don't think bash scripts are simple at all * The current initscripts do not do what I expect them to do (being able to start services, notably when a dependency is not up). * I don't think we have enough manpower to maintain bash scripts like Debian folks do * I don't think we are looking for a replacement to /sbin/init, but we are definitely looking for a boot sequence that works I am personnally open to having something else than systemd but I do not see anyone showing an alternative. Rémy.