this is on an older machine 450MHz with 128M ram and 3D rage card - working off an lcd monitor for whom i've had to set horizsync 30-35 vertrefresh 50-100 (or it tries to overshoot the monitor's capabilities and the screen locks up with an outofrange error for the horizsync. everything installed fine, but even with the following in xorg.conf: driver set to ati defaultdepth to 16 modes "1024x768" "800x600" it comes up as 640x480 also, i need to exec xterm& before going into lxde or the cursor doesn't show up. i've already pacmaned xf86-video-r128 (rage driver) xf86-video-ati (ati driver) it works fine in 640x480 (though a bit rough), but it would be nice to get at least 800x600. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's