Guys, I updated to 4.5.2 today and on start, kde4 asked to remove all my sound devices. So I chose - 'manage devices'. All of my sound devices are grayed out and the 'default' doesn't work. (screenshot of devices dialog here): [81k] http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/Archlinux/bugs/kde4-nosound.png The sound is "HDA Nvidia (ALC888 Analog)" and the same for digital and HDMI. I looked through dmesg to see if there was anything glaring, but there wasn't. (dmesg output here): [44k] http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/Archlinux/bugs/dmesg-20101006.txt Has anyone else seen this with the new kde4? If so any ideas how best to troubleshoot? Thanks for any help you can provide. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com