On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Arvid Ephraim Picciani <aep@ibcsolutions.de> wrote:
On Monday 23 June 2008 16:59:30 Aaron Griffin wrote:
I agree with Simo and Jan here. While we could easily take the "do it yourself" road, I always preferred the "sane defaults" side of Arch, myself. That is - install some crap and it works out-of-the-box in a pretty decent manner. It's a very small stretch from "sane defaults" to "secure defaults". Unless you think sane != secure.
so this is the official announcment that the vanilla-style-do-it-yourself for professional engineers and manual readers is no more, and that in future there will be rather debian-style-out-of-the-box solutions for those who want it to "just work" ? I'm fine with that new way. I'm going to look for a different distro then instead of having to unpatch more and more packages. I just would like to have a clear signal finally. The back and forth between those different styles is really painfull for somone who has to actually maintain a few dozens of machines. I guess you can run your systems easy and secure with the debian style, but you have to have a different kind of personality then me. thanks
Not to be snide, but your emails are always confrontational. No it is not an official announcement, no it is not a drastic change - for fuck's sake it's just a user and group added to one package. If you don't like it, then for god's sake build apache yourself.