Guys, Just updated my laptop's spare drive and something in the last set up updates, which included the kernel, really affected the radeon driver badly. It's almost like I am back running in framebuffer mode. I'm not quite sure where to start troubleshooting as I am not familiar at all with the changes kms introduced into the radeon driver soup, but I suspect that may be where the problem lies. I have no xorg.conf, so if there are config issues, it's with the default config. When I updated to the 2.6.33 kernel (2.6.33.4-1), I was ecstatic. The radeon driver was working the best I had ever seen it. Heat control was much better and frame rate had almost quadrupedaled and compiz worked great. IIRC, I even posted here giving kudos to the devs on how good it was working. With the update to 2.6.34-2, it is worse than ever before. Specifically, compiz will no longer run -- it just whitescreens. (usually a problem with the driver NOT being loaded). However, in this casee, all of the radeon modules are loaded: [01:10 alchemy:/home/david] # lsmod | grep rad radeon 790145 2 ttm 45713 1 radeon drm_kms_helper 23740 1 radeon drm 162265 4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit 5071 1 radeon i2c_core 18364 5 radeon,i2c_piix4,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit The biggest problem with the new packages is HEAT. We are now back to the point where the heat generated by the gpu and driver makes it uncomfortable to rest your palms on the palm-rest to type. I don't know where to start looking. The Xorg.0.log isn't that remarkable at all. The only things that stand out are: [ 36.790] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" [ 36.790] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) ** from earlier discussions, this is no big deal IIRC [ 37.526] is imortant (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled [ 37.526] (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration disabled ** this doesn't look good. I guess it means no DRI -- why is the question? I know DRI is important to compiz and I'm fairly sure dri was working with the last kernel/radeon driver combination. The difference between the setup with 2.6.33 and 2.6.34 is day and night. Also, the color in thunderbird has gone green -- literally. My normal dark gray message background is now green. I guess this is somehow related to the driver issue. The full Xorg.0.log and a screenshot of green tbird are here: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/Archlinux/Xorg.0.log http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/Archlinux/green-tbird.jpg I'm not sure where to start with this problem, with the xf86-video-ati package or with the kernel? What say the gurus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com