Am Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:13:56 -0700 schrieb Brendan Long <korin43@gmail.com>:
So the ALSA drivers don't do what they're supposed to and that PA's problem? If it doesn't work on your card, don't use it. It's why I don't use OSS on my laptop. And remember, what I was replying to was:
This is not ALSA's problem. This is a known PA issue. See the PA bugtracker. And I'd suggest informing yourself about those ice1712 based audio cards, how they are designed, how they work and how PA works. And install envy24control and PA's mixer and see the differences and see why PA can't be used for ice1712 cards. They are not comparable to usual sound cards like SoundBlaster, because they don't have Stereo or Surround sound. They just have several single input and output channels which can be mixed however you want. And this is just not supported by PA. But it is fully supported by ALSA and envy24control.
If your ALSA drivers are broken and don't support the feature PA uses, then don't use it. It doesn't make it bad software.
Don't put the blame on other people. PA may work with usual sound cards. It does not work with professional and semi-professional sound cards. And if ALSA would be indeed the reason why some PA functions are not working, why doesn't PA's upstream file appropriate bug reports to ALSA's upstream or why doesn't PA's upstream doesn't implement those features in a way that they work with ALSA as it is? And ALSA is the much older package. PA the newer which sets itself on top of ALSA. So why do PA's upstream or PA enthusiasts blame the older software? Some question too much. Btw., I, of course, don't use PA, because it doesn't work while ALSA is working. Heiko