-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 \begin{quote} While the main approach of Arch is to use vanilla software, as possible; Arch devs have to follow upstream decisions and at some point Arch and other distros fall into software those hide things from end users. I think most of the main upstream software (take systemd, KDE, GNOME and others) trying to be corporate software. Not all upstream decisions are good but we have to follow them. My two cents... \end{quote} So which components (obviously used by the majority of Arch users) do currently have or will soon have hardcoded! dependencies to systemd? As far as i can say, Gnome doesn't and if it will, there is still the possibility for everyone to either patch it, to install it along with systemd or just to use an alternative. Folks always confront me with the argument of more and more hardcoded dependencies, but I can't find them and am still happy without systemd (besides the udev thing which in fact isn't such a thing). Cheers, Jakob -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQNkIOAAoJEOl7hkDId7Ym33cQAIQpXVwSkSlUbDdI1lxW+A0n aajlGn1c95JeupBdAqaDq9VXB7y8TVd1suyq9KxEwflYPpPCZTlhV746OIEXApJs 8JXkm3gv2jWJEOsMzM1CcJ18bQ2ir9ouDMJ2IuGOpKLx0hmftlrRwgmota7rEPiC rLwEDLva/enA/9Vuz9+IbklNNiLabiskn+fdX8fbS4sSg0Zz8BORMFWVXnmU5ScZ 8cLJJyoWHOKjO7XGrB2UbTFYpFuUlJXriKth3Z1wP9e8BtvZXxtehYIj4r95XHga zcGri2RAoIAH0gRWjaJVam6iydPWb+fWzDyu6kY6gOzM+/4mBpSxsMlNA9nRyVx5 5QPxR6dzTJMOFUcycLJ0HIBYLNvkoTUrpWOyr5JeFFAixwln6kD3UDnwve7cnXh9 LeLDayI0oeq4DJ7Zkyu9HjaQmn+j5S3FO0i1ETYKUEgaPl3OBgLxxKBtZbnwR5wF ffEKpDGzz+qV8N/QHDMDlnvz5vjt7IGOqTG+UadmMSKr1xUo058SwgaYN1GtKKXf 2SFayrplUAYKxS7wLPrAyt4+KLqZ8416W+yTsPcDwwdDkgnFR+AlztckdY9/6q6A Fh07xzhmsQFloNv7e/VO4fAXva+PzK65/rcf2IMEJuZ6c3TZVCFl8uGqGTQBPlIE 6Tt15f6c42z7bc02sJ+W =qJe9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----