Hi. I'm not that sure what's happening. But I just acquired an HP Pavilion desktop. (My Sister's Hubby just bought a new win 7 box and let me recycle his old xp box... I told him right away that I'd found the problem he was having with the old box, it was running windows...) Anyway it's got AMD 64 processor with a gig of ram, and integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE (which could be the problem for all I know. But since I don't give a tallywack about 3d acceleration I doubt I'm supposed to need to know much about tweaking NVIDIA graphics. Anyway I promptly used gparted to squeeze the existing winxp installed to the 200 gig sata harddrive down to only 70 gig, & attached an ide seagate 250 gig drive I'd had left over from my former (defunct) desktop which had died about a year ago. Making room for multiple Linux distros. Because PCLinuxOS features a "mylivecd" script that's designed to make it easy for non-experts to make fully configured and installable live cd/dvd images of their running PCLinuxOS installation, PCLinuxOS got the first install. But Arch was supposed to be the 2nd. I installed the core system from an archlinux-2010.05-core-dual.iso But since I already have a 64 bit Arch on my laptop I thought I'd try the i686 image on the desktop... Then I set up my user partitions via udev rule (I've named all my partitions cause something like LABEL=Arch_desk-7, & LABEL=PCLOS_desk-3 are much more human readable than any UUID={string} will ever be). Anyway, I updated the new Arch system and kept working on customizations. I kept getting interrupted so it was a couple of days later that I was comfortable enough to reboot. It does reboot, but right after the bootup screen says something about waiting for UDev events the monitor goes blank. (I expect this to happen cause the arch on my laptop does the same thing except with the laptop, the screen returns to life a moment later with a new screen font that holds true until it enters runlevel: 3 where the font I defined in my rc.conf finally takes over... But on this new desktop which has a nice Sony flat screen monitor, when the screen goes blank, the Sony monitor flashes a pop-up notification about no signal, which is quickly followed by a notice that it's going to power save mode... And the new arch system never sends it any more output to wake it up. No mater what I do to the keyboard or mouse. And no matter how long I wait either. I tried just waiting... Went to bed, got up late the next day. Still no monitor output... But Arch itself is NOT hung up. It will respond to the three fingered salute with a reboot, and I even one time blindly logged in as root to the console and blindly typed: shutdown -h now Which resulted in a powerdown. But I still don't have any idea what's killing my monitor output. I can use my PCLinuxOS installation's root account to examine/edit *ANY* file. But I don't have a clue what to look for. Suggestions anyone??? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp@ttlc.net>>