Well Kmail seems to be a little better behaved now thanks for the help . Now got Google earth installed (loads of 32 bit stuff added from multilib) now it starts up then bombs out after a few seconds with an error report as Major Version 6 Minor Version 2 Build Number 0000 Build Date Jan 23 2012 Build Time 17:11:07 OS Type 3 OS Major Version 3 OS Minor Version 2 OS Build Version 2 OS Patch Version 0 Crash Signal 11 Crash Time 1328125391 Up Time 5.39584 Stacktrace from glibc: ./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0xc0af3)[0xf7681af3] ./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0xc0c73)[0xf7681c73] [0xf7707400] anyone got this working right up to date on kernel KDE ect ect uname -a Linux 7-of-9 3.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 08:40:20 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 7-of-9:/ # Cheers Pete .