On 09/02/10 10:05, hollunder wrote:
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2010-02-09 00:26:37 +0100:
On 09/02/10 04:49, Xavier Chantry wrote:
With every big rebuilds we get new breakage stories. It seems like it's the norm nowadays rather than the exception.
I am wondering if it's really only the users that are to blame.. or if Arch is also to blame. Or if Arch was supposed to be an elitist distribution and is victim of its success.
I think the answer to that is in the question: What did we do different previously that resulted in far less of these issues?
My impression is that nothing has particularly change in terms of how rebuilds are handled. If anything, the whole process has become a lot more streamlined and cases of missing a package rebuild are now almost non-existent.
So the cause must be... A change in user-base? Maybe just an increase in user-base resulting in more people who think Arch should be done their way and not the Arch way?
I don't know whether you (I don't mean you alone) are just being cocky or blind or I don't know what, but I've seen this attitude all over the place and I don't get it. By this attitude I refer to the total ignorance regarding these serious problems, bye developers and regular users on IRC or right here.
It might be being elitist, but saying so does not explain why there were not such big issues earlier in Arch's history. Maybe the target of "competent linux users" does not accurately reflect the user base. So, should the target change or should the user base change?