On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Ray Rashif <schiv@archlinux.org> wrote:
On 22 January 2011 01:53, C Anthony Risinger <anthony@extof.me> wrote:
oh... my. there is too much <expletive deleted> to respond properly so i'll try touch a couple [several] things ...
... why the resistance at all? let me reiterate this niiiice and slow:
SYSVINIT HAS NO POWER, NO FUNCTIONALITY, AND ABSOLUTELY ZERO USEFULNESS ON IT'S OWN.
I just tried systemd. And it just failed.
ok, so what went wrong? your sure you did everything correctly? more info would be needed to help you.
I don't want to know anything else, and I don't want to find out why.
ooooh now i see. maybe you meant to post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/ :-) ... because arch users are encouraged to help solve their own problems; whats your goal exactly?
Just looking at its underlying framework without having to make it run successfully is enough to get the point across - it is _not_ KISS.
"KISS, #2 in the top ten list of misunderstood/abused/regurgitated concepts." let me get this straight, you tried once, it didn't work once, so now it's garbage? you must think the whole AUR is garbage too then? or what?
If it ever comes to development attention to "adopt as default" or "replace sysvinit", I will personally cast a negative vote.
well luckily i don't think they run a democracy around here ;-)
With that said, I am all for dynamic systems. I may even use systemd personally in the future. We use Arch Linux, so we can do what we want with our systems. What the "default" is doesn't really matter. The packages get my vote.
indeed, and i'd mostly agree. however while im not a developer for archlinux, i wouldnt waste time on obsolete systems when a better alternative saves me time; you may end up maintaining the initscripts yourself. keep that in mind. the point of systemd is to make ALL of our lives easier, not more difficult. C Anthony