On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:27:46 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
Hi :)
the real issue isn't solved, but here are two hints how to get rid of PA for current Arch Linux, to stop the never ending, useless discussion.
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 13:23 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
Just get your job done and in the evening rebuild the package.
I'm using this package since I'm using audio with Arch Linux $ ls /usr/src/pulseaudio-dummy -l Dec 23 18:10 PKGBUILD Jan 15 01:43 pulseaudio-dummy-1.0-1-any.pkg.tar.xz I'm in no hurry ;).
Anyway those solutions might be helpful for others:
gnome-settings-daemon-nopulse 3.2.2-1 is available at https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48718
I'm using a pulseaudio-dummy package.
$ cat /usr/src/pulseaudio-dummy/PKGBUILD pkgname=pulseaudio-dummy pkgver=1.0 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A dummy package that pretends to provide pulseaudio." arch=('any') url="" license=('BSD') provides=('pulseaudio') conflicts=('pulseaudio') source=()
Both posted several times before. Btw. somebody from this list explained me how to build dummy-packages for Arch Linux, by this example, since I'm new to Arch.
A dummy-package IMO is the best way to go, since it protect against installing PA, what ever I do. So I can install what ever GNOME or KDE app I like and if I should install GNOME3, I could upgrade gnome-settings-daemon from extra, without taking care about PA.
The dependency problem which everyone seems to be concerned about is not going anywhere: any linux distro was, is and will be a "mix-and-match". Packagers try to enable maximum functionality -- hence you have unwanted applications -- but you can't expect them to satisfy your personal preferences. So if this situation bothers you there is only one realistic choice -- gentoo.
Perhaps this could damage an app, but I never experienced this for another Linux install I used.
This are just workarounds that don't solve the essence of that issue. Ok, the essence has to be clarified with upstream.
Do you have to pay for PA/gnome?
I'm using XFCE. The sub-thread was about issues caused by the policy of PA, not about my personal problems I might or might not have.
:) Ralf
PS: I suspect [solved] is for "silence", regarding to the S/N ratio.
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