On Sunday 04 October 2009 04:42:19 am Xavier wrote:
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David C. Rankin
<drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
On Friday 02 October 2009 04:13:13 am Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
Also, major php applications usually automatically notify the admin when there is an update. Drupal does it, and phpmyadmin probably too. So there is really *no need* to package them. Whatever I put under /srv/http comes from an upstream download.
this is one of the reasons why many webapps suck. they add bloat such as package/software management features. imho it's not the task of the webapp to do this. and i hate configuring every webapp to do it.
Dieter
+1
Even larger web apps with tight mysql dependencies, etc. are simple enough to install and usually come with good config scripts (Gallery2, eGroupWare, etc.). With web servers in many different locations for people that move to Arch, I think packaged web apps that try for a default "Arch" config could potentially cause more user headaches than they cure. SuSE and others have tried packaging web apps with limited success. The two exceptions to that are generally phpadministrator and phpmyadmin which I have seen successfully packaged by several distros.
Dieter was saying it would be better to manage webapps with the package manager. You are apparently saying the opposite. So why +1 ?
Blame it on the flu, I was saying there is no need to package web apps as the only install configuration needed is to untar and uncompress them to your chosen directory and then run their configure script to setup and/or configure the database backend and then to configure the webserver if you installed outside of the document root. I think it would require way more code than necessary if the packager was also going to try and manage all of that to accommodate installs in standard and non standard locations. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for automated install scripts as long as the installer doesn't introduce more bugs along the way. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com