[arch-general] Installing by remote control
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm currently running Arch Linux on a Linode. I'm happy--actually, real happy--with Arch, not so happy with the constraints I'm facing with the Linode. Casting about, I find Contabo in Germany. From them, I can get a dedicated server with lots more capacity for about the same cost (it'd actually go up a little because I'd solve a few other problems that doing this would bring within range). Unfortunately, they do not offer Arch Linux as an option. I sent their support team a message asking about this, and I've included their response below. It sounds like heartburn to me. I don't have a lot of experience installing Arch Linux (Linode *does* offer it as an option and I installed via Bridge Linux on my desktops). I'm hoping this isn't as weird as it sounds. (I've actually never heard of a KVMoIP.) Is what they're offering a reasonable proposition? How weird is it really? Thanks! - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Ticket#2013031910000443] Arch Linux? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:33:56 +0100 From: Contabo Support Team <support@contabo.com> Organization: Contabo GmbH To: benfell@parts-unknown.org Dear Mr Benfell, Thank you for your e-mail. Unfortunately, we can not offer you an automated installation of Arch Linux on our dedicated servers. But we could offer you to attach a KVMoIP and an USB drive with the installation media of Arch Linux to your server. This option is free of charge for a new dedicated server order and it would be possible for you to install your preferred Linux distribution by yourself. If you want to agree with this offer, please order the dedicated server on our website and add a note at the end of the ordering process about Arch Linux and the manual installation with the KVMoIP. http://contabo.com/?show=servers If you have any questions or need help, please do not hesitate to contact us. - -- Best regards, Stephan Forster Technischer Support / Technical support Contabo GmbH Aschauer StraÃe 32a 81549 München http://www.contabo.com E-mail: support@contabo.com Tel.: +49 (0) 89 3564717 70 Fax: +49 (0) 89 216 658 62 Visit us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/contaboCom Amtsgericht München HRB 180722 Authorized executives: Michael Herpich & Michael Bölke ___________________________________________________________ Please do not change the subject line of this e-mail. Only by this you make sure that your answer will not be out of context. Please direct all support issues directly to support@contabo.com . This will guarantee fastest processing possible. ___________________________________________________________ 19.03.2013 04:30 - David Benfell schrieb:
Hi,
I am leaning in favor of renting a dedicated server from your organization, but my preferred Linux distribution is Arch--principally because it is a rolling distribution.
I'm aware that a bleeding edge distribution is generally not recommended for production servers, but I've had good luck with Arch, and would prefer to stick with them.
I do not see Arch among your offerings. Would it be possible to do this?
Thanks!
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On 19.03.2013 23:04, David Benfell wrote:
Hi all,
I'm currently running Arch Linux on a Linode. I'm happy--actually, real happy--with Arch, not so happy with the constraints I'm facing with the Linode.
Casting about, I find Contabo in Germany. From them, I can get a dedicated server with lots more capacity for about the same cost (it'd actually go up a little because I'd solve a few other problems that doing this would bring within range).
Unfortunately, they do not offer Arch Linux as an option. I sent their support team a message asking about this, and I've included their response below.
It sounds like heartburn to me. I don't have a lot of experience installing Arch Linux (Linode *does* offer it as an option and I installed via Bridge Linux on my desktops). I'm hoping this isn't as weird as it sounds. (I've actually never heard of a KVMoIP.)
Is what they're offering a reasonable proposition? How weird is it really?
Thanks!
IIRC, by requesting KVMoIP you will get a serial console attached to your server onto which you can logon and thus have access to a serial console to your server, allowing you to view the boot process, GRUB and stuff like that. If you have this, you only have to boot into the USB install stick and install as you would usually do. The main point is that you should have serial access to your server with KVMoIP :) Greetings, Christoph
On 03/19/2013 06:13 PM, Christoph Vigano wrote:
On 19.03.2013 23:04, David Benfell wrote:
It sounds like heartburn to me. I don't have a lot of experience installing Arch Linux (Linode *does* offer it as an option and I installed via Bridge Linux on my desktops). I'm hoping this isn't as weird as it sounds. (I've actually never heard of a KVMoIP.)
Is what they're offering a reasonable proposition? How weird is it really?
Thanks!
IIRC, by requesting KVMoIP you will get a serial console attached to your server onto which you can logon and thus have access to a serial console to your server, allowing you to view the boot process, GRUB and stuff like that.
If you have this, you only have to boot into the USB install stick and install as you would usually do.
The main point is that you should have serial access to your server with KVMoIP :)
Greetings, Christoph
That's exactly right. If you've ever used a Dell server, you know they have this system called "DRAC" which essentially gives you a full remote console/administration system for the server, along with the ability to upload CD iso's and have them be available to the system. (Many other vendors provide this capability too, such as SuperMicro.) This capability provides you with full keyboard, mouse, screen, and console access to your system, and lets you do full management of a system even if there's no OS installed. Very useful in situations where you want to install the OS remotely. (I built a whole data center this way - from 2000 miles away.) A KVMOIP is basically the same thing, but for systems that don't have this capability built natively into their BIOS. The data center operator hooks up the KVMOIP to the system, and provides you with the IP address, and login credentials. You then connect to that KVMOIP, and can do remote system administration, OS install, etc. I've used one of these before as well - Hurricane Electric has them. HTH, DR
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2013 03:43 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
That's exactly right. <snip>
A KVMOIP is basically the same thing, but for systems that don't have this capability built natively into their BIOS. The data center operator hooks up the KVMOIP to the system, and provides you with the IP address, and login credentials. You then connect to that KVMOIP, and can do remote system administration, OS install, etc. I've used one of these before as well - Hurricane Electric has them.
HTH,
Thanks very much. I think I can follow this route, then. Whew! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRSSxaAAoJELJhbl/uPb4SzBYQAKAeDttvAd4PtKElIWvNd55a Wsmra6YmY+Tq64TTEGM1HJ9doXC/pypEu3Y/kluZBOgvNaGOYduZbAinNpH5azcf +f/RFlGTTVIx0pV3JsccI1EytMRhONM2mj9xzLa4aw1PVRnDAC0wHnxcKszfHBvM SeLsI9iOOYHIVW0qXFAiVrIiSr4FNmstL+tV20i/dfODl6gdo5R4riPvknROaFqw 1y8c2IKXEoSLJN9hV+Bg3YQ5T5JgT5yQjeDTPa+MaR2NFhS0wGUhfpuyrMjXmXw+ qShI3paGUrabMItPHpGHFU12om5Y+2tfYeEM3E9Cl2ljbnsqf85O7zPf7JtDUYgM a11OrbLygyfnFeGsPZtZwqx/ow1H15zDxa0rzk6O2haO9+TQ0BwhJDBodMsleVF6 jjpIpJGUKYH+nY/J5nrFKGwdqchNde5yDPzNHLP+5jqqKERSycKSJZ78DuSMJNx7 mWdvENI/qlWlbDpo3cBLZESwmFl3Ckhv5hcqqX1pRcBfQpeZ2JYqmFdt4s4tWBfI uZ3GHv5VwjaEajTMoM2h+g/cHRWeQFMXkDAmKMEQItud0+8gp3zKwcYVDvXmgc7v 9bAlFWo2DDDAhODo2icnvYCwgMs9HATnkOciRZZbbMUH98wDBgoO6PKsfe1NAhlJ ufdwoczJSq1co10qx4LW =jwrK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2013 03:13 PM, Christoph Vigano wrote:
IIRC, by requesting KVMoIP you will get a serial console attached to your server onto which you can logon and thus have access to a serial console to your server, allowing you to view the boot process, GRUB and stuff like that.
If you have this, you only have to boot into the USB install stick and install as you would usually do.
The main point is that you should have serial access to your server with KVMoIP :)
Thanks! This sheds some light. Linode includes something like this with all their VPS's--I forget what they call it, but it's definitely there and good to have for when you've *really* *screwed* *up*. ;-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRSSvGAAoJELJhbl/uPb4Sh5oP/0GPevt8rVdxxHeTevrdYles ywb/s9JDrJ81yFBe9ri1YlquseG1AWqCiVLfEDFJ4Lv8Hn7A9lQrBSIhmMgRShgY /Dy1fPEvAh9gxM5wikE0PvH+ivTzKUHnqeqKdsOXcVTXbDaD5UjJ/KaIkUnUl6R6 uHNzR1w5Hp6xqza5+Z3l8XRjx12QuIj09vzPfjIOEUOkFlgor1PYjJkf3IOpqHCK C4igwE9pREAsTvm1tKRnCxjB8FKU8ppV+FpmnsI0CufOnHhL2ZsDLK1Cp4aHUurw HpCMkhv8KNuBVqInZShtQ5Fap5+vGqkvJ+Z7OhBdFO/JBR1WSoZONMZNdij/1Bep tExn8a80Y+Fn8NhyI/X3HnxcnMRNOuHms8/9dXlJasoR1BfAyQH3Hl8ITLVBVPoV 4hVVL+vshC4Cw/xmWx5MU4kFUb4Cx7wsO4ee4Ur8+QA0jB+E2wgPF4qnR/SsfqUT vGDb+8ZTNKkvQD9yfr5QwfuRCzdeBQkMw8+FlYSnAcjqNTI3z8r6bqciZ1IdP/6o CFcc78HR0QHqVjQVwaLOXRi+QBI89jvQQmrnRtCQ6iUgB43XpfvKmAtBR9V60RfR 3xOukfOKcqBu+XR4+XU5zTS2Glzci9RlGquEFAJGB9POvNBp/BhoNNGjFIcteCdZ 8Aw5KRfTvGcL4gxmFUO4 =ouRD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Christoph Vigano
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David Benfell
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David Rosenstrauch