Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]
Regarding phonon being dropped, after some googling it seems i was mistaken, what i had read was that Qt framework is dropping phonon, not KDE. But still, i believe it would be sane to drop phonon in KDE too and replace it with Pulseaudio, it is the best choice. No need for 2 sound servers when one could do the trick. Plus, in case someone says Phonon can switch sound cards without the app restarting, everytime i try it Amarok and others crash, so yes, it needs restarting...
2010/11/28 Χρήστος Κώτσαρης
Regarding phonon being dropped, after some googling it seems i was mistaken, what i had read was that Qt framework is dropping phonon, not KDE. But still, i believe it would be sane to drop phonon in KDE too and replace it with Pulseaudio, it is the best choice. No need for 2 sound servers when one could do the trick.
Plus, in case someone says Phonon can switch sound cards without the app restarting, everytime i try it Amarok and others crash, so yes, it needs restarting...
Note that as far as I know, phonon is an abstraction API with similar functionality like GStreamer, not PulseAudio.
On Sunday 28 November 2010 12:48:38 Jan Steffens wrote:
Note that as far as I know, phonon is an abstraction API with similar functionality like GStreamer, not PulseAudio.
Yes indeed, that's my understanding too. Anyway, thanks Jan - I can report that I'm using KDE, VLC etc. without pulse and everything seems fine. This kind of separation and choice is one of the reasons why I really like Arch. Good work :-) As an aside... On Sunday 28 November 2010 10:11:12 Χρήστος Κώτσαρης wrote:
In any case, Linux/GNU needs pulseaudio. Pulseaudio should be the api to target for all apps. The kind of functionality it provides it is needed if modern distros are to compete with Windows 7. Windows 7 now provide the functionality to switch sound cards on the fly without restaring the app playing sound.
Personally speaking, I can honestly say that I've never even considered this functionality. And I for one don't think that Arch's aims are (nor should be) to just try to keep up with Microsoft's bloat. Have it as an option for those that want this, by all means, but Arch way beats Windows 7 in pretty much every criteria I have. Pete.
On 28.11.2010 11:47, Χρήστος Κώτσαρης wrote:
Regarding phonon being dropped, after some googling it seems i was mistaken, what i had read was that Qt framework is dropping phonon, not KDE. But still, i believe it would be sane to drop phonon in KDE too and replace it with Pulseaudio, it is the best choice. No need for 2 sound servers when one could do the trick.
Plus, in case someone says Phonon can switch sound cards without the app restarting, everytime i try it Amarok and others crash, so yes, it needs restarting...
Well Qt (or Nokia if you like) does not drop phonon completly, but Qt will switch to a native framework called Qt-Multimedia. There no change in functionality. Phonon isn't a sound or video playback backend, it's just an abstraction layer using other engine like vlc or xine or pulseaudio
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