On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Philipp Überbacher <hollunder@lavabit.com> wrote:

Excerpts from Dieter Plaetinck's message of 2010-09-08 21:47:40 +0200:

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anyone knows this? http://bugseverywhere.org/be/show/HomePage

the concept looks great, although i don't know anything about the implementation/usage.

other then the advantages they list, I think something like this can be useful for downstream<->upstream communication. (ie someone reports a bug in the distro bugseverywhere, they can then more easily forward the bugs to upstream when needed) i blogged about stuff like this @ http://dieter.plaetinck.be/what_the_open_source_community_can_learn_from_dev... if anyone cares.

Dieter

Hi Dieter, just another distributed bug tracking system: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/tip/www/index.wiki

It's also a DVCS and whatnot. What I wonder about is how it compares to git when it comes to the DVCS part.

i don't anything too valuable to add, except that i too have written about this concept, notably here: Distrib -e "Arch(org|code|pkgs|aur|forum|wiki|bugs|.*)?" -- thoughts https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=709188 i think this is the _primary_ barrier affecting uptake of linux/GNU as a mainstream platform. we have all the source, and all the talent, but the heterogeneous nature of OSS (great, but a barrier nonetheless) means we are all using varied and incompatible tools to track/build the same upstreams. we need some unification here, not just for users, but vendors/developers too; such disconnects are a source of serious confusion and duplication of work. i think this, regardless of chosen software, would be a huge step forward. while i haven't released a prototype yet, i am attempting to realize this with work being done on aur-pyjs (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=99839); my "cover" is a replacement for the AUR, but the real motivation behind this project is to build a distribution agnostic platform, a "framework for building linux distributions" if you will. we need to take sources, packages, bugs, software channels (vendors/distributions), and communication (forums/wiki/ML-ish) to the P2P/distributed space, so that all these exobytes of resources can be shared by _all_ communities. DSCM can solve nearly all these problems, including cryptographic verification of origin and identity. specifically, i want to rid ourselves of the notions of versions and packages, and instead move to a "tracking" scheme, ie. aggressive tracking = following HEAD/trunk, stable tracking = following certain tags. we need to eliminate the overhead in packaging, and manual cherry-picking of appropriate versions; i have many specific ideas here, but i don't want to digress too much :-) i wish i had something more tangible to share, but i'm in a bit of a financial crunch, and have only implemented bits and pieces; it is not demo-able yet. however, i am highly motivated to induce/propagate this paradigm shift, so i am responding to encourage everyone to think beyond what is now, and tune your cognitive abilities toward these alternative possibilities. closing the gaps between user/author/vendor/developer/support/etc. means more rapid, consistent, and _transparent_ progression of the entire ecosystem. C Anthony