On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:

I have a feeling this should be documented somewhere, but I can't seem to find anything about it.

When catching up with the latest package updates just now I noticed I had a passwd.pacnew file in /etc. When merging in the changes I found I have two systemd user entries that don't appear in the upstream file:

systemd-journal-remote:x:997:997:systemd Journal Remote:/:/usr/bin/nologin systemd-journal-upload:x:996:996:systemd Journal Upload:/:/usr/bin/nologin

Are they safe to remove?

I don't find any mention to these users in the documentation [1][2] but... -I'm guessing here- these users seem to be used only for the services of the same name. See /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journal-{remote,upload}.service. So if you are not planning to use these services, you should not need these users. BTW, there is also a systemd-journal-gateway, with the same pattern. HTH. [1]: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-upload.html [2]: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-remote.html

On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 01:35:40PM +0200, Rodrigo Rivas wrote:

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:

...

I have a feeling this should be documented somewhere, but I can't seem to find anything about it.

When catching up with the latest package updates just now I noticed I had a passwd.pacnew file in /etc. When merging in the changes I found I have two systemd user entries that don't appear in the upstream file:

systemd-journal-remote:x:997:997:systemd Journal Remote:/:/usr/bin/nologin systemd-journal-upload:x:996:996:systemd Journal Upload:/:/usr/bin/nologin

Are they safe to remove?

I don't find any mention to these users in the documentation [1][2] but... -I'm guessing here- these users seem to be used only for the services of the same name. See /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journal-{remote,upload}.service.

So if you are not planning to use these services, you should not need these users.

BTW, there is also a systemd-journal-gateway, with the same pattern.

Well, systemd-journal-gateway comes with the default `/etc/passwd` in the filesystem package. The other two do not, hence the question. /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Heuristic is an algorithm in a clown suit. It’s less predictable, it’s more fun, and it comes without a 30-day, money-back guarantee. -- Steve McConnell, Code Complete