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Fons Adriaensen

16 Aug 2012 16 Aug '12

9:29 p.m.

Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'. This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia

16 Aug 16 Aug

10:42 p.m.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Oon-Ee Ng

17 Aug 17 Aug

3:43 a.m.

On 17 Aug 2012 06:42, "Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia" < archlinux@ishpeck.net> wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ

I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

Fons Adriaensen

7:06 a.m.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:43:18AM +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

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Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

A third one arrived. BTW, I don't want to discourage anyone from reading Lennart's blog. It's very revealing at some points. Just know what you are reading. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

Kevin Chadwick

12:17 p.m.

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BTW, I don't want to discourage anyone from reading Lennart's blog.

How pulse is perfect for pro audio because of it's latency. I was going to ping that to Ralf but thought his blood pressure was already high enough ;-) -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________

Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia

12:30 p.m.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 07:06:36AM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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BTW, I don't want to discourage anyone from reading Lennart's blog. It's very revealing at some points. Just know what you are reading.

No, it's important to understand the full arguments before you criticize them. The first thing I did when I heard about systemd is look at his blog and read the crazy "this is the best thing since sliced orgasm!" posts. If you glean the actual information from there, you'll find what you need to know about systemd. The narrative dross is there because it was written by a human.

Calvin Morrison

12:40 p.m.

I received a single link On Aug 17, 2012 8:30 AM, "Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia" < archlinux@ishpeck.net> wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 07:06:36AM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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BTW, I don't want to discourage anyone from reading Lennart's blog. It's very revealing at some points. Just know what you are reading.

No, it's important to understand the full arguments before you criticize them. The first thing I did when I heard about systemd is look at his blog and read the crazy "this is the best thing since sliced orgasm!" posts.

If you glean the actual information from there, you'll find what you need to know about systemd. The narrative dross is there because it was written by a human.

Ralf Mardorf

20 Aug 20 Aug

7:42 a.m.

On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 11:43 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

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On 17 Aug 2012 06:42, "Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia" < archlinux@ishpeck.net> wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ

I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

I send my last email at August 14. to the mailing list and until today I didn't send any mails. From: arch-general-request@archlinux.org Reply-to: arch-general-request@archlinux.org To: ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net Subject: confirm 5a736082281891a8dfab4c24506fd11133a8d477 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:40:48 -0400 I don't care about it, I only reply because you asked. Regards, Ralf

Felipe Contreras

21 Aug 21 Aug

11:06 p.m.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

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On 17 Aug 2012 06:42, "Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia" < archlinux@ishpeck.net> wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ

I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

I have received about 30 of them, all from 74.63.112.146. -- Felipe Contreras

Fons Adriaensen

11:25 p.m.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 01:06:46AM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:

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Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

I have received about 30 of them, all from 74.63.112.146.

Someone loves you :-) I got only 3 :-( Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

Ralf Mardorf

22 Aug 22 Aug

6:39 a.m.

On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 01:06 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

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On 17 Aug 2012 06:42, "Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia" < archlinux@ishpeck.net> wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ

I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

I have received about 30 of them, all from 74.63.112.146.

Where they all faked? I only received one and it wasn't a fake.

Kwpolska

8:19 a.m.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

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On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 01:06 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

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On 17 Aug 2012 06:42, "Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia" < archlinux@ishpeck.net> wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ

I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

I have received about 30 of them, all from 74.63.112.146.

Where they all faked? I only received one and it wasn't a fake.

Were* and it's not likely. Anyone can happily send you a message like that. You just need to POST email=ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net login-unsub=Unsubscribe to http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/options/arch-general (and you can send a billion requests automatically by curl.) -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16

Ralf Mardorf

8:35 a.m.

On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 10:19 +0200, Kwpolska wrote:

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On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

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On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 01:06 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

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On 17 Aug 2012 06:42, "Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia" < archlinux@ishpeck.net> wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ

I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it..

I have received about 30 of them, all from 74.63.112.146.

Where they all faked? I only received one and it wasn't a fake.

Were* and it's not likely. Anyone can happily send you a message like that. You just need to POST email=ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net login-unsub=Unsubscribe to http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/options/arch-general (and you can send a billion requests automatically by curl.)

Yes and seemingly somebody likes to add fuel to the fire :(. The systemd discussion comes to an end, so nobody should send such mails to people, that are still involved to this discussion(s). Sending 30 mails to Felipe is impertinent. If somebody shouldn't like Felipe, than this person should learn how to use the filters of the MUA. It's psychopathologically to send 30 mails of that kind. This person needs professional help. Regards, Ralf

Sebastian Günther

9:51 p.m.

* Kwpolska (kwpolska@gmail.com) [22.08.12 10:19]:

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Were* and it's not likely. Anyone can happily send you a message like that. You just need to POST email=ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net login-unsub=Unsubscribe to http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/options/arch-general (and you can send a billion requests automatically by curl.)

Curl? http? for a mailing list? Put this in an appropriate loop in a bash script: echo "whatever" | mail -r ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net -s unsubscribe arch-general-request@archlinux.org no need to fiddle with POST Sebastian -- " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. " | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail SEB@STI@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:arch@teageek.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org

Kwpolska

23 Aug 23 Aug

8:06 a.m.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Sebastian Günther wrote:

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* Kwpolska (kwpolska@gmail.com) [22.08.12 10:19]:

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Were* and it's not likely. Anyone can happily send you a message like that. You just need to POST email=ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net login-unsub=Unsubscribe to http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/options/arch-general (and you can send a billion requests automatically by curl.)

Curl? http? for a mailing list?

Put this in an appropriate loop in a bash script:

echo "whatever" | mail -r ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net -s unsubscribe arch-general-request@archlinux.org

no need to fiddle with POST

Sebastian

-- " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. " | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail SEB@STI@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:arch@teageek.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org

That is also possible, but I didn't know the address and nobody gives it away publicly. And you need sendmail or stuff like that. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16

Sebastian Günther

30 Aug 30 Aug

10:36 a.m.

* Kwpolska (kwpolska@gmail.com) [23.08.12 10:06]:

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Curl? http? for a mailing list?

Put this in an appropriate loop in a bash script:

echo "whatever" | mail -r ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net -s unsubscribe arch-general-request@archlinux.org

no need to fiddle with POST

Sebastian

That is also possible, but I didn't know the address and nobody gives it away publicly. And you need sendmail or stuff like that.

Well, the address is in *every* mail you receive from this List. Read the headers. And I always install a sendmail on my systems, even if it's only ssmtp or msmtp. I like to know of there are any problems and normally all of this is send via mail. No magic here... Sebastian -- " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. " | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail SEB@STI@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:arch@teageek.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org

gt

17 Aug 17 Aug

5:58 a.m.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 04:42:33PM -0600, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

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Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'.

This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else.

It was especially hurtful for me. QQ

I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits.

Thankfully, they are courteous enough to send you a confirmation link :P On a more serious note, please ignore them, as I for one valued the contributions of you both.

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Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
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Kevin Chadwick
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Oon-Ee Ng
Ralf Mardorf
Sebastian Günther