Hi, user 1001 (chuser) is in the group of user 1000 (rocketmouse). Folder and file have read permission for group 1000 (rocketmouse), but user 1001 (chuser) can't read the file. Do I miss the forest for the trees? [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ id chuser uid=1001(chuser) gid=1001(chuser) groups=1001(chuser),10(wheel),50(games),91(video),92(audio),93(optical),95(storage),100(users),1000(rocketmouse),108(vboxusers) Path and file permissions [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -ld /home/ /home/rocketmouse/ /home/rocketmouse/.gtkrc-2.0_openbox+jwm drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 23 10:14 /home/ drwxr----- 100 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 May 15 17:22 /home/rocketmouse/ -rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 152 Oct 16 2014 /home/rocketmouse/.gtkrc-2.0_openbox+jwm Permission denied [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo -u chuser ls -ld /home/rocketmouse/ /home/rocketmouse/.gtkrc-2.0_openbox+jwm ls: cannot access /home/rocketmouse/.gtkrc-2.0_openbox+jwm: Permission denied drwxr----- 100 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 May 15 17:22 /home/rocketmouse/ [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo -u chuser cat /home/rocketmouse/.gtkrc-2.0 cat: /home/rocketmouse/.gtkrc-2.0: Permission denied This happens also when logged in as user 1001 (chuser) instead of using sudo -u, take a look at https://bbs.archlinux.de/viewtopic.php?id=27969, it's in German, but that doesn't matter regarding the English terminal output. Regards, Ralf