On Wed, 2023-04-26 at 10:56 +0100, Polarian wrote:

Secondly, you can not do partial upgrades like that

Hi, that's not always correct. This month I downloaded embree from IIRC staging. In the past I did this with packages from testing, too. I downloaded the package and installed it with "pacman -U". The reason for this was, that there was a conflict by the official repositories. This partial upgrade fixed the conflict. Regards, Ralf

On Wed, 2023-04-26 at 10:03 -0500, Doug Newgard wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:58:36 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote:

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On Wed, 2023-04-26 at 10:56 +0100, Polarian wrote:

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Secondly, you can not do partial upgrades like that

Hi,

that's not always correct. This month I downloaded embree from IIRC staging. In the past I did this with packages from testing, too.

I downloaded the package and installed it with "pacman -U". The reason for this was, that there was a conflict by the official repositories. This partial upgrade fixed the conflict.

Regards, Ralf

You can do that, but you should *expect* things to break. Up to and including making your system unbootable. If you do something like that, you're on your own, Arch is not designed for it. But it's your system, do whatever you want.

I should mention that in the case of embree this was done after #78188 was fixed and the fixed package was provided by staging. Installing this package couldn't break my system, because it was broken by a regular, supported update ;). Actually this package fixed a system that was broken by a regular, supported update. Something like this doesn't happen often, but from time to time it does happen.

On Wed, 2023-04-26 at 23:21 +0100, Polarian wrote:

You should not be recommending the use of partial upgrade

Hi, I never recommended partial upgrades. I only mentioned that replacing a package from official repositories that does cause issues, with a package from staging or testing sometimes does fix a broken install instead of causing breakage. Regards, Ralf

On 4/26/23 12:57, Christian Heusel wrote:

Hey Łukasz! :)

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I am running arch-linux with cyrus-imapd as mail server for several years and now cyrus-imapd appeared in community-testing.

I am planning upgrade and switch from cyrus-imapd aur package to version from community-testing. You can just continue using the AUR version until the package is actually moved to [community], so unless you want to help out testing the package there is no need to hurry switching to the one in [community-testing].

If however you want to help out by testing the new package you should read the wiki article[0] about the testing repositories, especially it is important that you also have to enable [testing] if you want to use [community-testing] because packages in [community-testing] link against libraries etc. from [testing] and you otherwise put your system in a state of being partially upgraded[1].

Many thanks for your detailed explanations. This is my production machine, so it is safer to stick to AUR version and compile it myself for now instead of pulling packages from [testing] repository. Regards, Łukasz