[arch-general] getting fed up with gnome's fast-user-switching experience
Maybe some of you have had similar problems, maybe some have fixed them, seen them vanish with updates, or are still dealing with them. On pretty much every computer I interact with that uses Gnome (Arch, et al.) there is always one problem or another trying to log out, switch users, or resume from suspend. The symptom is usually a blank screen (with or without the backlight), or a blank screen with just the mouse. I'm not sure which combination of programs is to blame. But I've suspected (in no particular order): gdm gnome-session pm-utils gnome-screensaver kernel/xorg drivers for nvidia/ati/intel When encountered with a blank screen, sometimes the solution is as simple as ctrl+alt+f# to find the right tty. Sometimes ctrl+alt+backspace will work if DontZap is disabled. Sometimes I can ssh from another computer and do an (tel)init 3; (tel)init 5. And many unfortunate times I either can't log in remotely or the init trick doesn't work - I'm forced to do a hard reboot. The worst part is, it is really beginning to feel completely random. Or difficult to pinpoint, like special combinations of users that are logged and the user that is initiating the logout/suspend/etc (corrupted gconf?) *sigh* Do any of you have a multi-user gnome system with no problems at all here?
Most probably a problem somewhere in the graphics driver stack.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Matthew Monaco
Maybe some of you have had similar problems, maybe some have fixed them, seen them vanish with updates, or are still dealing with them.
On pretty much every computer I interact with that uses Gnome (Arch, et al.) there is always one problem or another trying to log out, switch users, or resume from suspend. The symptom is usually a blank screen (with or without the backlight), or a blank screen with just the mouse.
I'm not sure which combination of programs is to blame. But I've suspected (in no particular order): gdm gnome-session pm-utils gnome-screensaver kernel/xorg drivers for nvidia/ati/intel
When encountered with a blank screen, sometimes the solution is as simple as ctrl+alt+f# to find the right tty. Sometimes ctrl+alt+backspace will work if DontZap is disabled. Sometimes I can ssh from another computer and do an (tel)init 3; (tel)init 5. And many unfortunate times I either can't log in remotely or the init trick doesn't work - I'm forced to do a hard reboot.
The worst part is, it is really beginning to feel completely random. Or difficult to pinpoint, like special combinations of users that are logged and the user that is initiating the logout/suspend/etc (corrupted gconf?)
*sigh*
Do any of you have a multi-user gnome system with no problems at all here?
Excerpts from Jan Steffens's message of 2010-06-01 01:59:24 +0200:
Most probably a problem somewhere in the graphics driver stack.
Or whatever-kit that makes fast user switching possible? -- Regards, Philipp -- "Wir stehen selbst enttäuscht und sehn betroffen / Den Vorhang zu und alle Fragen offen." Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan
On pretty much every computer I interact with that uses Gnome (Arch, et al.) there is always one problem or another trying to log out, switch users, or resume from suspend. The symptom is usually a blank screen (with or without the backlight), or a blank screen with just the mouse.
There is, or was, a long standing bug in catalyst/fglrx that causes pretty much what you describe. -- Phil
On 06/01/2010 02:56 AM, Phil Garner wrote:
On pretty much every computer I interact with that uses Gnome (Arch, et al.) there is always one problem or another trying to log out, switch users, or resume from suspend. The symptom is usually a blank screen (with or without the backlight), or a blank screen with just the mouse.
There is, or was, a long standing bug in catalyst/fglrx that causes pretty much what you describe.
-- Phil
I've never used fglrx, ony radeon, radeonhd, nvidia, nouveau, and intel.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Matthew Monaco
On 06/01/2010 02:56 AM, Phil Garner wrote:
On pretty much every computer I interact with that uses Gnome (Arch, et al.) there is always one problem or another trying to log out, switch users, or resume from suspend. The symptom is usually a blank screen (with or without the backlight), or a blank screen with just the mouse.
There is, or was, a long standing bug in catalyst/fglrx that causes pretty much what you describe.
-- Phil
I've never used fglrx, ony radeon, radeonhd, nvidia, nouveau, and intel.
only catalyst-test(fglrx) worked for me
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 19:42 -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote:
On pretty much every computer I interact with that uses Gnome (Arch, et al.) there is always one problem or another trying to log out, switch users, or resume from suspend. The symptom is usually a blank screen (with or without the backlight), or a blank screen with just the mouse.
Currently (and for the past 2 months or so), all our Debian Squeeze boxes suffer from not being able to shutdown/restart/logout from the gnome menu. Our only option is to do a 'switch user' and then shutdown/restart from gdm. Probably something with polkit/gnome-keyring-daemon, but I cannot find any errors in the logs which makes this hard to debug. Our problems are probably unrelated, but I feel your pain :) Vincent -- Advocatenkantoor Suy, Van Baeveghem & Van Houtte Brusselsestraat 108 9200 Dendermonde T +32.52.52.06.05 F +32.52.52.06.46 W http://www.synergylaw.be
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Jan Steffens
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Madhurya Kakati
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Matthew Monaco
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Phil Garner
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Philipp Überbacher
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Vincent Van Houtte