[arch-general] arch-dev-public misleading
The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells that the list is open for everyone to discuss about development of Arch Linux and apps. This also makes me think that there must also be a closed mailing list for the developers and USA government only, where they can discuss about putting a spying app to every single arch box there is. :D
Am 31.07.2010 13:30, schrieb jesse jaara:
The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells that the list is open for everyone to discuss about development of Arch Linux and apps. This also makes me think that there must also be a closed mailing list for the developers and USA government only, where they can discuss about putting a spying app to every single arch box there is. :D
There IS a closed list, and it used to be the only development list for quite some time. In March 2007, arch-dev-public was created and virtually all development talk moved there (traffic on arch-dev is very minimal, mainly discussions about server infrastructure and world domination). If you (== the user) want to discuss Arch development, you can use arch-general.
On 31/07/2010 14:00, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Am 31.07.2010 13:30, schrieb jesse jaara:
The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells that the list is open for everyone to discuss about development of Arch Linux and apps. This also makes me think that there must also be a closed mailing list for the developers and USA government only, where they can discuss about putting a spying app to every single arch box there is. :D There IS a closed list, and it used to be the only development list for quite some time. In March 2007, arch-dev-public was created and virtually all development talk moved there (traffic on arch-dev is very minimal, mainly discussions about server infrastructure and world domination).
I think Jesse is specifically asking why the arch-dev-public list is not open to everyone to WRITE to. Other devs can correct me if I am wrong, but the rationale for making it "read-only" to non-devs is to limit traffic to an acceptable level so that development discussions can be conducted productively. The arch-general list is open to everyone and all devs subscribe to it. But it is true that the "read-only" status of arch-dev-public could be stated more clearly on http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/, perhaps changing it to something like: "Public mailing list for Arch Linux development (read-only for non-devs)" F
On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 15:50 Firmicus wrote:
On 31/07/2010 14:00, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Am 31.07.2010 13:30, schrieb jesse jaara:
The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells that the list is open for everyone to discuss about development of Arch Linux and apps. This also makes me think that there must also be a closed mailing list for the developers and USA government only, where they can discuss about putting a spying app to every single arch box there is. :D
There IS a closed list, and it used to be the only development list for quite some time. In March 2007, arch-dev-public was created and virtually all development talk moved there (traffic on arch-dev is very minimal, mainly discussions about server infrastructure and world domination).
I think Jesse is specifically asking why the arch-dev-public list is not open to everyone to WRITE to. Other devs can correct me if I am wrong, but the rationale for making it "read-only" to non-devs is to limit traffic to an acceptable level so that development discussions can be conducted productively. The arch-general list is open to everyone and all devs subscribe to it. But it is true that the "read-only" status of arch-dev-public could be stated more clearly on http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/, perhaps changing it to something like: "Public mailing list for Arch Linux development (read-only for non-devs)"
Yeah, if someone could be bothered, it might even make more sense to rename them such that "arch-dev" is the publicly readable list and "arch-dev-private" is the private one that no-one really knows about (or cares about). It's probably too much hassle for too many people, but would make things look a bit more obvious from a (non-dev) community member's perspective, while still also making perfect sense to the devs. I have to admit, I made the same mistake as Jesse when I first arrived in Archland. Pete.
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Firmicus
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jesse jaara
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Peter Lewis
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Thomas Bächler