[arch-general] What's with F# and mono?
I'm just starting to dip my toes in the mono waters. Slightly prompted by my current situation at work. In particular I'm interested in F#, but I'm finding the whole situation around mono/monodevelop + F# a bit confusing. 1. There are indications online that mono ships with F# [^1][^2]. But the mono package in Arch doesn't include F#. Looking at the sources used to build the mono package there is no F# in sight. Was it ever there? 2. The package on AUR[^3] for fsharp is rather outdated. Not such a big problem, the building received a lot of TLC so the package is extremely simple to bring up-to-date. 3. Is there an F# add-in for monodevelop? There seems to have been one back in 2010, but it's not distributed any more, [^4]. However, other places say there is an add-in available, [^5] (however, downloading fails). So, can anyone help me get a clearer picture of F# on mono (and ArchLinux)? /M [^1]: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.html - talking of plans to include F# in mono. [^2]: http://is.gd/cNC5xb- - "F# is included in the standard Mono release, but it's still missing from the MonoDevelop IDE." [^3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fsharp/ [^4]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- - bug on F# add-in missing, closed for MD 2.4, the last comment suggests it'd be re-opened [^5]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- which links to http://addins.monodevelop.com/Project/Index/48 -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus The results point out the fragility of programmer expertise: advanced programmers have strong expectations about what programs should look like, and when those expectations are violated--in seemingly innocuous ways--their performance drops drastically. -- Elliot Soloway and Kate Ehrlich
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Magnus Therning <magnus@therning.org>wrote:
I'm just starting to dip my toes in the mono waters. Slightly prompted by my current situation at work. In particular I'm interested in F#, but I'm finding the whole situation around mono/monodevelop + F# a bit confusing.
1. There are indications online that mono ships with F# [^1][^2]. But the mono package in Arch doesn't include F#. Looking at the sources used to build the mono package there is no F# in sight. Was it ever there?
2. The package on AUR[^3] for fsharp is rather outdated. Not such a big problem, the building received a lot of TLC so the package is extremely simple to bring up-to-date.
3. Is there an F# add-in for monodevelop? There seems to have been one back in 2010, but it's not distributed any more, [^4]. However, other places say there is an add-in available, [^5] (however, downloading fails).
So, can anyone help me get a clearer picture of F# on mono (and ArchLinux)?
/M
[^1]: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.html - talking of plans to include F# in mono.
[^2]: http://is.gd/cNC5xb- - "F# is included in the standard Mono release, but it's still missing from the MonoDevelop IDE."
[^3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fsharp/
[^4]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- - bug on F# add-in missing, closed for MD 2.4, the last comment suggests it'd be re-opened
[^5]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- which links to http://addins.monodevelop.com/Project/Index/48
-- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus
The results point out the fragility of programmer expertise: advanced programmers have strong expectations about what programs should look like, and when those expectations are violated--in seemingly innocuous ways--their performance drops drastically. -- Elliot Soloway and Kate Ehrlich
I had this running in Arch using the packages from the standard repositories several months ago (new system since then). I had to compile and install F# manually from [1]. If memory serves, I had to install an add-on/plug-in in mono develop for F# support to work. [1] https://github.com/fsharp/fsharp Thanks Squall -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N https://github.com/headmastersquall
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:54:29AM -0600, Squall Lionheart wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Magnus Therning <magnus@therning.org>wrote:
I'm just starting to dip my toes in the mono waters. Slightly prompted by my current situation at work. In particular I'm interested in F#, but I'm finding the whole situation around mono/monodevelop + F# a bit confusing.
1. There are indications online that mono ships with F# [^1][^2]. But the mono package in Arch doesn't include F#. Looking at the sources used to build the mono package there is no F# in sight. Was it ever there?
2. The package on AUR[^3] for fsharp is rather outdated. Not such a big problem, the building received a lot of TLC so the package is extremely simple to bring up-to-date.
3. Is there an F# add-in for monodevelop? There seems to have been one back in 2010, but it's not distributed any more, [^4]. However, other places say there is an add-in available, [^5] (however, downloading fails).
So, can anyone help me get a clearer picture of F# on mono (and ArchLinux)?
/M
[^1]: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.html - talking of plans to include F# in mono.
[^2]: http://is.gd/cNC5xb- - "F# is included in the standard Mono release, but it's still missing from the MonoDevelop IDE."
[^3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fsharp/
[^4]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- - bug on F# add-in missing, closed for MD 2.4, the last comment suggests it'd be re-opened
[^5]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- which links to http://addins.monodevelop.com/Project/Index/48
I had this running in Arch using the packages from the standard repositories several months ago (new system since then). I had to compile and install F# manually from [1]. If memory serves, I had to install an add-on/plug-in in mono develop for F# support to work.
Great, there is hope then :) Do you happen to remember where you found that add-on for MonoDevelop? I can't seem to find one that can be downloaded AND plugged into MD. /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Goto labels should be left-aligned in all caps and should include the programmer's name, home phone number, and credit card number. -- Abdul Nizar
Great, there is hope then :)
Do you happen to remember where you found that add-on for MonoDevelop? I can't seem to find one that can be downloaded AND plugged into MD.
I'm pretty sure that when I first set it up, I installed it from the Add-in manager --> Language Bindings, but it's no longer there. I did find this [1], but the compile fails when I try it. Let me know if you get it working. [1] https://github.com/fsharp/fsharpbinding -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N https://github.com/headmastersquall
I found out that the F# Language Binding is available in the monodevelop add-ins repository, but not for the version of Mono Develop that is in the Arch Repos. If you manually search for the F# language bindings here [1], you will find it but are unable to download it. I installed Xamarin Studio on a Windows 7 machine and after hitting refresh on the Gallery tab, the language binding show up. I don't think this problem is the Arch package, but a bug in the monodevelop add-in repositories. [1] http://addins.monodevelop.com/ -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N https://github.com/headmastersquall
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