[arch-general] problem while bridging network
hi listmate, I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion. I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine). So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0 bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0. If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network. To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have no internet connexion. Weird. If any one might help me with this, it would be nice. -ludovic
Last I checked, you can't run 3D games inside of a virtual machine, unless something's changed. Anyone confirm? -AT On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:25 PM, ludovic coues <couesl@gmail.com> wrote:
hi listmate,
I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion. I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine).
So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0 bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0. If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network. To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have no internet connexion. Weird.
If any one might help me with this, it would be nice. -ludovic
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 13:44, Andrei Thorp <garoth@gmail.com> wrote:
Last I checked, you can't run 3D games inside of a virtual machine, unless something's changed. Anyone confirm?
-AT
You can, with some hacking. However I have yet to successfully make this work with a win 7 VM. For XP in virtualbox, the following should work: 1) Set up the VM, ensuing the 3d accel checkbox is checked 2) Install XP 3) Install the virtualbox guest additions 4) Install wined3d into in windows from here: http://aybabtu.com/rmh/wined3d/ After that, you should have fully operational opengl and d3d acceleration in your XP guest machine. I have used this successfully with audiosurf, other games may or may not work depending on what hardware checks they make and what parts of d3d they use. NOTE: you should disable mouse integration when playing games under this. The integration features mess up the mouse controls rather badly. NOTE: When wined3d asks you which parts to install, do NOT check the first one, for direct2d. Doing so will break your XP install. Checking the directx 8, 9 and 10 boxes however are all safe, so far as I can tell. HTH -Aren Olson -- "Whoever said sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain." - K. Jackson Ubuntu Linux - www.ubuntu.com
thank for this hint. Catalyst driver doesn't seem to work, I'll give this a try.If doesn't work better, I'll try to intall my *sigh* vista. I love this game (eve-online). A bit too much I think.
You can, with some hacking. However I have yet to successfully make this work with a win 7 VM. For XP in virtualbox, the following should work:
1) Set up the VM, ensuing the 3d accel checkbox is checked 2) Install XP 3) Install the virtualbox guest additions 4) Install wined3d into in windows from here: http://aybabtu.com/rmh/wined3d/
After that, you should have fully operational opengl and d3d acceleration in your XP guest machine. I have used this successfully with audiosurf, other games may or may not work depending on what hardware checks they make and what parts of d3d they use.
NOTE: you should disable mouse integration when playing games under this. The integration features mess up the mouse controls rather badly. NOTE: When wined3d asks you which parts to install, do NOT check the first one, for direct2d. Doing so will break your XP install. Checking the directx 8, 9 and 10 boxes however are all safe, so far as I can tell.
HTH -Aren Olson
-- "Whoever said sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain." - K. Jackson Ubuntu Linux - www.ubuntu.com
Huh, this is excellent information, thanks. Probably still slow and regular Wine bugginess, but maybe worth trying. I have a friend at work who's a serious Eve addict. He might find this very interesting also. Cheers :)
You can, with some hacking. Â However I have yet to successfully make this work with a win 7 VM. For XP in virtualbox, the following should work:
1) Set up the VM, ensuing the 3d accel checkbox is checked 2) Install XP 3) Install the virtualbox guest additions 4) Install wined3d into in windows from here: http://aybabtu.com/rmh/wined3d/
After that, you should have fully operational opengl and d3d acceleration in your XP guest machine. Â I have used this successfully with audiosurf, other games may or may not work depending on what hardware checks they make and what parts of d3d they use.
NOTE: you should disable mouse integration when playing games under this. Â The integration features mess up the mouse controls rather badly. NOTE: When wined3d asks you which parts to install, do NOT check the first one, for direct2d. Â Doing so will break your XP install. Checking the directx 8, 9 and 10 boxes however are all safe, so far as I can tell.
HTH -Aren Olson
-- "Whoever said sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain." - K. Jackson Ubuntu Linux - www.ubuntu.com
Huh, this is excellent information, thanks. Probably still slow and regular Wine bugginess, but maybe worth trying. I have a friend at work who's a serious Eve addict. He might find this very interesting also.
Cheers :)
I would actually recommend using Cedega if you're too run Eve: Online. I've dualboxed the game running nvidia twinview and cedega and it worked perfectly on my GT6800. I guess it should work fine with Wine also. I never experienced any bugginess and it wasn't at all slow :) Best regards Fredrik Eriksson
Yeah, it'd be sweet if I can figure out a way for my buddy to run Eve. He said he'd switch to Arch if he could find a way to play this game on it :D -AT On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Fredrik Eriksson <fredrik.eriksson@gigabit.nu> wrote:
You can, with some hacking. However I have yet to successfully make this work with a win 7 VM. For XP in virtualbox, the following should work:
1) Set up the VM, ensuing the 3d accel checkbox is checked 2) Install XP 3) Install the virtualbox guest additions 4) Install wined3d into in windows from here: http://aybabtu.com/rmh/wined3d/
After that, you should have fully operational opengl and d3d acceleration in your XP guest machine. I have used this successfully with audiosurf, other games may or may not work depending on what hardware checks they make and what parts of d3d they use.
NOTE: you should disable mouse integration when playing games under this. The integration features mess up the mouse controls rather badly. NOTE: When wined3d asks you which parts to install, do NOT check the first one, for direct2d. Doing so will break your XP install. Checking the directx 8, 9 and 10 boxes however are all safe, so far as I can tell.
HTH -Aren Olson
-- "Whoever said sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain." - K. Jackson Ubuntu Linux - www.ubuntu.com
Huh, this is excellent information, thanks. Probably still slow and regular Wine bugginess, but maybe worth trying. I have a friend at work who's a serious Eve addict. He might find this very interesting also.
Cheers :)
I would actually recommend using Cedega if you're too run Eve: Online. I've dualboxed the game running nvidia twinview and cedega and it worked perfectly on my GT6800. I guess it should work fine with Wine also.
I never experienced any bugginess and it wasn't at all slow :)
Best regards Fredrik Eriksson
no luck installing the wineD3D apps. No right to write into the directX file on the win7 system, and I can't set this with corrupted graphics. I've yet some problem with the VM. I'll give a shoot at wine then cedega right now, then try back the VM if this doesn't work. I'll keep you informed.
Huh, this is excellent information, thanks. Probably still slow and regular Wine bugginess, but maybe worth trying. I have a friend at work who's a serious Eve addict. He might find this very interesting also.
Cheers :)
It's actually pretty close to native speed so far as I can tell. However virtualization of the other components of the game adds more overhead beyond just d3d slowdown, so its hard to tell. As for bugginess.... yeah its buggy on a lot of games, but if you find a game (like Audiosurf) that doesn't trigger any of them you're good to go. :D I've added these instructions to the wiki [1], please add to them if you discover anything new. -Aren [1] - http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VirtualBox#Enabling_D3D_acceleration_in_... -- "Whoever said sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain." - K. Jackson Ubuntu Linux - www.ubuntu.com
I've give a try to wine, and eve reply to me that my graphic card doesn't support shader 2. For wikipedia, a mobility radeon X2300 support directX9c, which mean shader up to 3... I wish eve-online is an openGL game... I go back to the VM
I did it ! I've install wined3D on the piece oh sh*t that is M$ vista and up. I'll update the wiki in order to bring instruction to install it. A brief summary here. You will: start windows in without fail mode by pressing F8 lunch wined3D as administrator when the first warning come, go to the system folder. change owner of all file backed up by wined3D give total control of these file to admin. In windows, trusted installer have more power than admin. And admin can't change their right if the file belong to trusted admin.... Now, need to configure shared folder, and copy the eve installer to the VM... after the wiki.
After some test, wined3D appears to doesn't work at all on win7. Basic game like freecell cannot be launch at all after this, and few thing like that. If I can found my vista installer DVDs, I'll try with it. If I can't, I'll search for an XP install. I hate these M$ product with no compatibility
I'd think XP would probably give you the best results. -AT
For sure. There are people on the eve's forum talking about worst fps with vista than older PC with XP. I just need to found an XP... There is no more thing like that in shop.
I think there is no need to bridge your network inside your machine. Use the outwards interface (eth0) in your settings. Give in windows a "fresh" IP for your Virtualbox. Works fin on my side. I have all Linux "normal" built: wlan0 to get to the router. (example 192.168.5.1, Router: 192.168.5.100) Inside Virtualbox I set the Adapter to use wlan0 as Bridged Network. And inside Windows I use a static IP to use in my network (example 192.168.5.2) or use dhcp. Baumi Am Mittwoch, den 13.05.2009, 18:25 +0200 schrieb ludovic coues:
hi listmate,
I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion. I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine).
So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0 bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0. If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network. To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have no internet connexion. Weird.
If any one might help me with this, it would be nice. -ludovic
My connexion is ok now. I've just forget to read the part for wifi connexion in the wiki. Problem remain for 3D. Drive seems to don't work. I'll give a try again on wine. Thank a lot all ;-) 2009/5/13, Patrick Baumgart <Baumi@gmx.com>:
I think there is no need to bridge your network inside your machine. Use the outwards interface (eth0) in your settings. Give in windows a "fresh" IP for your Virtualbox. Works fin on my side.
I have all Linux "normal" built: wlan0 to get to the router. (example 192.168.5.1, Router: 192.168.5.100) Inside Virtualbox I set the Adapter to use wlan0 as Bridged Network. And inside Windows I use a static IP to use in my network (example 192.168.5.2) or use dhcp.
Baumi
Am Mittwoch, den 13.05.2009, 18:25 +0200 schrieb ludovic coues:
hi listmate,
I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion. I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine).
So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0 bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0. If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network. To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have no internet connexion. Weird.
If any one might help me with this, it would be nice. -ludovic
My connexion is ok now. I've just forget to read the part for wifi connexion in the wiki. Problem remain for 3D. Drive seems to don't work. I'll give a try again on wine. Thank a lot all ;-)
participants (5)
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Andrei Thorp
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Aren Olson
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Fredrik Eriksson
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ludovic coues
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Patrick Baumgart