On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:21:20 +0100 Tobias Powalowski wrote:

Am 12.03.2014 06:32, schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi:

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On 02/24/2014 03:56 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:

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Right now, we have a problem with cyclic dependencies in core: systemd requires libblkid and libuuid (systemd-udevd) and util-linux requires libudev (findmnt, and soon uuidd [1]).

I don't like this situation and currently it is revoled by adding systemd as optdepend to util-linux. This has the side effect that in a chroot with only certain packages installed, one has to explicitly install systemd to get findmnt working. Since I've run into this situation and cyclic deps are bad, I propose the following:

Split both util-linux and systemd into libutil-linux/util-linux and libsystemd/systemd. Then we could have both util-linux and systemd depend on both libsystemd and libutil-linux.

[1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg08699.html

We also have another set when installing {base} group:

warning: util-linux will be installed before its coreutils dependency warning: util-linux will be installed before its pam dependency warning: shadow will be installed before its pam dependency

New depends introduce error during base installation, libutil-linux needs coreutils first else no install is found.

Sorry for cross-list posting... Actually, this is an old error which I saw on all new installs for quite some time. For example: ----- [2014-02-14 19:46] [PACMAN] installed shadow (4.1.5.1-7) [2014-02-14 19:46] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] /tmp/alpm_p51CHp/.INSTALL: line 6: install: command not found [2014-02-14 19:46] [PACMAN] installed util-linux (2.24.1-1) ----- Cheers, L. -- Leonid Isaev GPG key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D