On 02/26/2012 07:14 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote:

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Is it maybe that packages from aur don't have the same weight when checking for reverse dependencies? How exactly did you install these packages from 'pacman -Qdt' output? You can always fix this with pacman's '-D' switch.

Well I just installed them as dependencies from yaourt -S python2-tinkerer and if they are installed as dependencies of something which is still installed, they should not be marked as orphans, right?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:57 PM, rafael ff1 wrote:

Run "yaourt -Qi python2-tinkerer" and confirm that python2-sphinx is listed in "Depends On".

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56900 it is.

p.s.: Orphan is a package without maintainer, so it's not related.

'orphans' is a term with many meanings, packages from 'pacman -Qdt' output are often called orphans. Yes, this can be a bit confusing. IIRC clyde (another AUR helper) used to install every package as explicitly installed. Maybe if you run 'pacman -U foo', foo gets installed in this way too.

Hallo rafael ff1:

p.s.: Orphan is a package without maintainer, so it's not related.

No, "orphans" are

packages that were installed as dependencies but are no longer required by any installed package.

according to pacman(8). -- Wieland

Le dimanche 26 fév 2012 à 21:14:07 (+0000), Andrea Crotti a écrit :

On 02/26/2012 07:57 PM, rafael ff1 wrote:

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Well I just installed them as dependencies from yaourt -S python2-tinkerer and if they are installed as dependencies of something which is still installed, they should not be marked as orphans, right? Run "yaourt -Qi python2-tinkerer" and confirm that python2-sphinx is

2012/2/26 Andrea Crotti: listed in "Depends On".

p.s.: Orphan is a package without maintainer, so it's not related.

Yes orphan was not the right word sorry, what is the right word then? Anyway I realized I'm an idiot, because I - installed tinkerer from aur - realized that I wanted to contribute so I forked the project and cloned it - uninstalled tinkerer from the system (but with my own copy installed outside of pacman)

So pacman -Qdt was perfectly right :) Only one note, now I tried to just reinstall python2-sphinx, and in my opinion if I install it manually the "Install reason" should change to "Explicitly installed", doesn't it make sense?

I can still use pacman -D sure, but in theory if I explicitly install something it's reason should also change.. Sometimes, you need to reinstall a package because its version is failing, and it’s still a dependancy. Explicit reinstallations are more often because something’s failing than a real explicit installation. My opinion.

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