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Madhurya Kakati

10 Aug 2011 10 Aug '11

11:44 a.m.

Hi, I was quite surprised to see a language pack for LibreOffice for my mother tongue in the extra repo(libreoffice-as). I was wondering as to how to write it? Do I need to buy a special keyboard or will this qwerty keyboard work? Thanks

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Tom Gundersen

10 Aug 10 Aug

11:56 a.m.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Madhurya Kakati wrote:

I was quite surprised to see a language pack for LibreOffice for my mother tongue in the extra repo(libreoffice-as). I was wondering as to how to write it? Do I need to buy a special keyboard or will this qwerty keyboard work?

The language pack is not related to your writing, it only means that the user interface will be translated to Assamese. If you want to type in Assamese script, I guess you'll just have to configure your keyboard correctly (obviously, there will be the problem of the keys not corresponding to the letters produced, but that's just something to get used to ;-)). I don't have support for Assamese keyboard layout on my computer, but maybe Bengalese is similar enough that you can use that? You'll also need the correct fonts installed, if you can view http://as.wikipedia.org/, correctly then you should be fine (works here). Good luck! -t

Ray Rashif

1:22 p.m.

On 10 August 2011 19:44, Madhurya Kakati wrote:

Hi, I was quite surprised to see a language pack for LibreOffice for my mother tongue in the extra repo(libreoffice-as). I was wondering as to how to write it? Do I need to buy a special keyboard or will this qwerty keyboard work? Thanks

I'm not quite sure about the differences but you can: 1. Change your keyboard layout to your language (in KDE/GNOME settings or other tools) 2. Use ibus-m17n (ibus is a new input system) 3. Use scim-m17n (scim is sort of an older input system) I've personally set up ibus for Hindi, Bengali and Mandarin for friends and family on Ubuntu. This was a two-step process, first adding languages to the system, and then adding layouts to ibus using the gtk tool. CTRL+SPACE changed between layouts or ON/OFF. There was an option to change the entire OS to your language, so even your folders are renamed. However, ibus/scim offers the flexibility to use an English keyboard and a primary English computing environment, but toggling the input system for say when you have an editor running would allow you to switch between multiple languages and keyboard types of those languages. There is also phonetic support in some of those, where you type in English the way your word is pronounced and it will auto-transliterate. On the other hand, I think, (1) is a bilingual approach only. -- GPG/PGP ID: 8AADBB10

Madhurya Kakati

12 Aug 12 Aug

1:05 p.m.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:

On 10 August 2011 19:44, Madhurya Kakati wrote:

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Hi, I was quite surprised to see a language pack for LibreOffice for my mother tongue in the extra repo(libreoffice-as). I was wondering as to how to write it? Do I need to buy a special keyboard or will this qwerty keyboard work? Thanks

I'm not quite sure about the differences but you can:

1. Change your keyboard layout to your language (in KDE/GNOME settings or other tools) 2. Use ibus-m17n (ibus is a new input system) 3. Use scim-m17n (scim is sort of an older input system)

I've personally set up ibus for Hindi, Bengali and Mandarin for friends and family on Ubuntu. This was a two-step process, first adding languages to the system, and then adding layouts to ibus using the gtk tool. CTRL+SPACE changed between layouts or ON/OFF. There was an option to change the entire OS to your language, so even your folders are renamed.

However, ibus/scim offers the flexibility to use an English keyboard and a primary English computing environment, but toggling the input system for say when you have an editor running would allow you to switch between multiple languages and keyboard types of those languages. There is also phonetic support in some of those, where you type in English the way your word is pronounced and it will auto-transliterate. On the other hand, I think, (1) is a bilingual approach only.

-- GPG/PGP ID: 8AADBB10

So basically I can use my english qwerty keyboard to enter assamese characters? That's great. So I just have to install ibus and then I can write in Assamese in libreoffice writer?

Jesse Jaara

1:22 p.m.

2011/8/12 Madhurya Kakati :

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:

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On 10 August 2011 19:44, Madhurya Kakati wrote:

...
Hi, I was quite surprised to see a language pack for LibreOffice for my mother tongue in the extra repo(libreoffice-as). I was wondering as to how to write it? Do I need to buy a special keyboard or will this qwerty keyboard work? Thanks

I'm not quite sure about the differences but you can:

1. Change your keyboard layout to your language (in KDE/GNOME settings or other tools) 2. Use ibus-m17n (ibus is a new input system) 3. Use scim-m17n (scim is sort of an older input system)

I've personally set up ibus for Hindi, Bengali and Mandarin for friends and family on Ubuntu. This was a two-step process, first adding languages to the system, and then adding layouts to ibus using the gtk tool. CTRL+SPACE changed between layouts or ON/OFF. There was an option to change the entire OS to your language, so even your folders are renamed.

However, ibus/scim offers the flexibility to use an English keyboard and a primary English computing environment, but toggling the input system for say when you have an editor running would allow you to switch between multiple languages and keyboard types of those languages. There is also phonetic support in some of those, where you type in English the way your word is pronounced and it will auto-transliterate. On the other hand, I think, (1) is a bilingual approach only.

-- GPG/PGP ID: 8AADBB10

So basically I can use my english qwerty keyboard to enter assamese characters? That's great. So I just have to install ibus and then I can write in Assamese in libreoffice writer?

Install ibus and ibus-m17n and it should work I don't know if the input method is phonetic or some else, but that should give you assamese input. -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

Shridhar Daithankar

1:38 p.m.

On Friday 12 Aug 2011 6:35:59 PM Madhurya Kakati wrote:

So basically I can use my english qwerty keyboard to enter assamese characters? That's great. So I just have to install ibus and then I can write in Assamese in libreoffice writer?

There are multiple ways to achieve the same thing. It all boil downs to how to inform X that what keyboard layout you are using. I regularly type मराठी(marathi) in all my programs from KDE and do not need any special installation. Just go to system settings -> input devices -> keyboard layout -> configure layout and add the desired layout. Thats all. I just checked it but asamese is not listed in there. Closest one is bengali. Even in indian layout, there is no asamese variant. -- Regards Shridhar

Ray Rashif

6:19 p.m.

On 12 August 2011 21:38, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:

On Friday 12 Aug 2011 6:35:59 PM Madhurya Kakati wrote:

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So basically I can use my english qwerty keyboard to enter assamese characters? That's great. So I just have to install ibus and then I can write in Assamese in libreoffice writer?

There are multiple ways to achieve the same thing. It all boil downs to how to inform X that what keyboard layout you are using.

I regularly type मराठी(marathi) in all my programs from KDE and do not need any special installation.

Just go to system settings -> input devices -> keyboard layout -> configure layout and add the desired layout. Thats all.

I just checked it but asamese is not listed in there. Closest one is bengali.

Even in indian layout, there is no asamese variant.

I think this is why: "The present standard is identical to the Bengali script except for two letters." From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assamese_script Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support_(Indic)#Check_for_exi... Where Bengali and Assamese are in the same box. -- GPG/PGP ID: 8AADBB10

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