[arch-general] Archwiki - Installing with fake raid - really chopped up...
Guys, I don't know who does the wiki editing on the "Installing with Fake RAID" page, but a lot of the helpful information was deleted and it has been edited down to the point that it is confusing. I rebuilt my home server last night and moved my last suse server to Arch at home. I had written a fairly extensive howto in the Installing with Fake RAID wiki page after my first multiple fake raid set install last fall so I went back to use it as a reference of the install last night. I was surprised how terse the information was and how little of the original step by step instructions remained. It was actually confusing enough that I went back to the original for a reference. If it was confusing for me to use as a reference and I know how to do this having done at least a dozen, I can imagine how it would hit a first timer. Don't get me wrong, the core information is still there, but it doesn't logically flow through the install. It's like nothing connects the dots... We might want to take another look at making the page flow a little better and expand a sentence or two on each step from the point of Partitioning Your Drive -> choosing other, to Installing Grub. Another 3-4 sentences in that area would really help. I don't mind doing it, but I don't want to do it again just to have it erased again. So is there someone we can send the additions to so they can add it 'officially' rather then me adding it and having it erased again? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On 1 March 2010 05:57, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I don't know who does the wiki editing on the "Installing with Fake RAID" page, but a lot of the helpful information was deleted and it has been edited down to the point that it is confusing.
I rebuilt my home server last night and moved my last suse server to Arch at home. I had written a fairly extensive howto in the Installing with Fake RAID wiki page after my first multiple fake raid set install last fall so I went back to use it as a reference of the install last night. I was surprised how terse the information was and how little of the original step by step instructions remained. It was actually confusing enough that I went back to the original for a reference.
If it was confusing for me to use as a reference and I know how to do this having done at least a dozen, I can imagine how it would hit a first timer.
Don't get me wrong, the core information is still there, but it doesn't logically flow through the install. It's like nothing connects the dots...
We might want to take another look at making the page flow a little better and expand a sentence or two on each step from the point of Partitioning Your Drive -> choosing other, to Installing Grub. Another 3-4 sentences in that area would really help.
I don't mind doing it, but I don't want to do it again just to have it erased again. So is there someone we can send the additions to so they can add it 'officially' rather then me adding it and having it erased again?
Do you mean the page has moved and old history gone? If not, look back at the history, find the one which looks optimal, and revert. -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:57 PM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I don't know who does the wiki editing on the "Installing with Fake RAID" page, but a lot of the helpful information was deleted and it has been edited down to the point that it is confusing.
You seriously don't know that wikis have an history ? And I don't understand what you are saying. I did my first fake raid install recently, probably in December with a recent version of that page and didn't have any problems. I was even surprised it worked on the first try. I just checked how that page was last October, and from the quick comparisons I just did, the current page still contains the same amount of information, has a nicer layout, and does not have some useless and outdated and confusing sections anymore.
On 02/28/2010 04:56 PM, Xavier Chantry wrote:
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:57 PM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I don't know who does the wiki editing on the "Installing with Fake RAID" page, but a lot of the helpful information was deleted and it has been edited down to the point that it is confusing.
You seriously don't know that wikis have an history ?
Yes, I'm not a wiki guy, I'm a lawyer...
And I don't understand what you are saying. I did my first fake raid install recently, probably in December with a recent version of that page and didn't have any problems. I was even surprised it worked on the first try. I just checked how that page was last October, and from the quick comparisons I just did, the current page still contains the same amount of information, has a nicer layout, and does not have some useless and outdated and confusing sections anymore.'
The whole issue is the deletion of the discussion where you go from choosing "Other" in Partition you Disk, to "Installing Grub", there are no more than 3 bullet points one in "red" and the other two in "blue" that are just that -- bullet points or how you switch back and forth from Arch Install -> cfdisk to set the CHS on your device mapper before diving into grub install and say nothing of the controllers and chipsets that require an actuall reboot after initially partitioning in cfdisk to make the new device mapper logical partition available to complete the partitioning. I'll check the history. I still have the original page I did last fall and hopefully we can put a few more sentences back that explain how to recover from these type issues. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
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David C. Rankin
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Ray Rashif
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Xavier Chantry