[arch-general] Mouse C&P not working
Hi folks another little glitch i use an "Logitech Marble Mouse" Trackball but since installing Arch i have been unable to get the C&P working at all well , the only way i can get anything like is to copy to the clipboard switch app then paste from clipboard . I am used to just grabing with the mouse and pasting straight to the relevent place without the un wanted extra steps i believe it need an mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d but cant find any info on creating one any help please .. # Pete .
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 08:58 +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:
Hi folks
another little glitch i use an "Logitech Marble Mouse" Trackball but since installing Arch i have been unable to get the C&P working at all well , the only way i can get anything like is to copy to the clipboard switch app then paste from clipboard .
I am used to just grabing with the mouse and pasting straight to the relevent place without the un wanted extra steps i believe it need an mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d but cant find any info on creating one any help please
Hi Pete :) for my Arch, using Xfce, C&P using the mouse wheel button is working by default. There are no settings for xorg.conf on my machine. FWIW the xorg.conf entries might be Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection I guess to enable this you first need to install the package xf86-input-mouse. Hth, Ralf
On Saturday 14 Jan 2012 10:28:02 Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 08:58 +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:
Hi folks
another little glitch i use an "Logitech Marble Mouse" Trackball but since installing Arch i have been unable to get the C&P working at all well , the only way i can get anything like is to copy to the clipboard switch app then paste from clipboard .
I am used to just grabing with the mouse and pasting straight to the relevent place without the un wanted extra steps i believe it need an mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d but cant find any info on creating one any help please Hi Pete :)
for my Arch, using Xfce, C&P using the mouse wheel button is working by default. There are no settings for xorg.conf on my machine.
FWIW the xorg.conf entries might be
Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection
I guess to enable this you first need to install the package xf86-input-mouse.
Hth,
Ralf
Hi Ralf Ok wonder if it is a KDE problem .. i have xf86-input-mouse installed this is going to bug me now it makes life so hard having to edit -> copy edit -> paste even within this mail Bahhhhhhhhhhh humbugger it Pete .
I guess to enable this you first need to install the package xf86-input-mouse.
AFAK there is usually no need to install the "xf86-input-mouse" package. my mouse is working just fine. copying and pasting using mouse is handled with X and it doesn't have anything to do with the driver. Just check your X settings or your DE and see if something is wrong.
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 14:01 +0330, ali.mousavi@gmail.com wrote:
I guess to enable this you first need to install the package xf86-input-mouse.
AFAK there is usually no need to install the "xf86-input-mouse" package. my mouse is working just fine. copying and pasting using mouse is handled with X and it doesn't have anything to do with the driver. Just check your X settings or your DE and see if something is wrong.
There are different ways to set up a mouse. It hasn't to be done by any file inside /etc/X11. On Debian I edited another file, can't remember it's location. Anyway, wheel emulation could be an issue. I guess the wheel emulation is a X setting somewhere in /etc, e.g. xorg.conf and that ominous file I can't remember, but perhaps the option to use the third button for C&P is a task of the DE. I want to get rid of the C&P option :D. Shortcuts and mouse options at the moment are less important for me, so I didn't search for it, I still try to get an audio out signal :(. Anyway, there are new issues for the mouse on current Linux. When I was using Debian I had to get rid of my PS/2 mouse, because the wheel didn't work. I bought a USB mouse. The USB mouse was ok, but after some upgrades no mouse worked anymore. For Arch my USB mouse is ok again. - Ralf
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 12:33 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 14:01 +0330, ali.mousavi@gmail.com wrote:
I guess to enable this you first need to install the package xf86-input-mouse.
AFAK there is usually no need to install the "xf86-input-mouse" package. my mouse is working just fine. copying and pasting using mouse is handled with X and it doesn't have anything to do with the driver. Just check your X settings or your DE and see if something is wrong.
There are different ways to set up a mouse. It hasn't to be done by any file inside /etc/X11. On Debian I edited another file, can't remember it's location. Anyway, wheel emulation could be an issue.
I guess the wheel emulation is a X setting somewhere in /etc, e.g. xorg.conf and that ominous file I can't remember, but perhaps the option to use the third button for C&P is a task of the DE.
I want to get rid of the C&P option :D. Shortcuts and mouse options at the moment are less important for me, so I didn't search for it, I still try to get an audio out signal :(.
Anyway, there are new issues for the mouse on current Linux. When I was using Debian I had to get rid of my PS/2 mouse, because the wheel didn't work. I bought a USB mouse. The USB mouse was ok, but after some upgrades no mouse worked anymore. For Arch my USB mouse is ok again.
- Ralf PS: FWIW I don't have xf86-input-keyboard installed, but I guess without a DE
# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/keyboard.conf Section "InputClass" Identifier "keyboard" MatchIsKeyboard "yes" Option "XkbLayout" "de" #Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" does set up the keyboard. Can't remember and won't test it now. Last year I noticed that some thingies that worked the last 9 years with Linux stopped working, one of those thingies for me is an old mouse. Regarding to X a widespread issue seems to be that the nv driver is dropped, fortunately Arch still includes it to the repositories.
On 01/14/2012 03:47 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 12:33 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 14:01 +0330, ali.mousavi@gmail.com wrote:
I guess to enable this you first need to install the package xf86-input-mouse.
AFAK there is usually no need to install the "xf86-input-mouse" package. my mouse is working just fine. copying and pasting using mouse is handled with X and it doesn't have anything to do with the driver. Just check your X settings or your DE and see if something is wrong. There are different ways to set up a mouse. It hasn't to be done by any file inside /etc/X11. On Debian I edited another file, can't remember it's location. Anyway, wheel emulation could be an issue.
I guess the wheel emulation is a X setting somewhere in /etc, e.g. xorg.conf and that ominous file I can't remember, but perhaps the option to use the third button for C&P is a task of the DE.
I want to get rid of the C&P option :D. Shortcuts and mouse options at the moment are less important for me, so I didn't search for it, I still try to get an audio out signal :(.
Anyway, there are new issues for the mouse on current Linux. When I was using Debian I had to get rid of my PS/2 mouse, because the wheel didn't work. I bought a USB mouse. The USB mouse was ok, but after some upgrades no mouse worked anymore. For Arch my USB mouse is ok again.
- Ralf PS: FWIW I don't have xf86-input-keyboard installed, but I guess without a DE
# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/keyboard.conf Section "InputClass" Identifier "keyboard" MatchIsKeyboard "yes" Option "XkbLayout" "de" #Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
does set up the keyboard. Can't remember and won't test it now.
Last year I noticed that some thingies that worked the last 9 years with Linux stopped working, one of those thingies for me is an old mouse. Regarding to X a widespread issue seems to be that the nv driver is dropped, fortunately Arch still includes it to the repositories. I am thankful for that as well or else I would never be able to shutdown or reboot my laptop. NV driver is the only one that I can get to work reliably with my video card. Nouveau is even worse of a driver to use for my card over the proprietary. Its sad I cant use a video driver that works reliably that's actually being developed. I hope they get X and nvidia sorted out soon.
About the C&P are you sure that you don't have one of those paste programs running in the background that you did not configure. I remember I accidentally got one installed not paying attention to an install and I had to remove it to get my C&P back to normal.
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 12:44 -0800, Don Juan wrote:
Regarding to X a widespread issue seems to be that the nv driver is dropped, fortunately Arch still includes it to the repositories. I am thankful for that as well or else I would never be able to shutdown or reboot my laptop. NV driver is the only one that I can get to work reliably with my video card. Nouveau is even worse of a driver to use for my card over the proprietary. Its sad I cant use a video driver that works reliably that's actually being developed. I hope they get X and nvidia sorted out soon.
Since the nv driver works without failure it doesn't need development. Hopefully it will be possible to use it with future versions of X and future versions of the compiler hopefully will be able to build the nv driver.
About the C&P are you sure that you don't have one of those paste programs running in the background that you did not configure. I remember I accidentally got one installed not paying attention to an install and I had to remove it to get my C&P back to normal.
I don't know. It's possible that for Xfce such a program is running.
On 01/14/2012 02:56 PM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 12:44 -0800, Don Juan wrote:
Regarding to X a widespread issue seems to be that the nv driver is dropped, fortunately Arch still includes it to the repositories. I am thankful for that as well or else I would never be able to shutdown or reboot my laptop. NV driver is the only one that I can get to work reliably with my video card. Nouveau is even worse of a driver to use for my card over the proprietary. Its sad I cant use a video driver that works reliably that's actually being developed. I hope they get X and nvidia sorted out soon. Since the nv driver works without failure it doesn't need development. Hopefully it will be possible to use it with future versions of X and future versions of the compiler hopefully will be able to build the nv driver.
About the C&P are you sure that you don't have one of those paste programs running in the background that you did not configure. I remember I accidentally got one installed not paying attention to an install and I had to remove it to get my C&P back to normal. I don't know. It's possible that for Xfce such a program is running.
See if you have xfce4-clipman-plugin installed if not maybe try installing it. May be the missing ilnk for you or may be the cause of the problem if installed. Not sure what else to look at if the other suggestions dont work.
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 16:13 -0800, Don Juan wrote:
See if you have xfce4-clipman-plugin installed if not maybe try installing it. May be the missing ilnk for you or may be the cause of the problem if installed. Not sure what else to look at if the other suggestions dont work.
I'm not the OP. Anyway, for my mouse C&P does work using the wheel button and xfce4-clipman-plugin isn't installed. Hm? Pete, what WM/DE (version) and clipboard are you using?
On Sunday 15 Jan 2012 01:38:17 Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 16:13 -0800, Don Juan wrote:
See if you have xfce4-clipman-plugin installed if not maybe try installing it. May be the missing ilnk for you or may be the cause of the problem if installed. Not sure what else to look at if the other suggestions dont work.
I'm not the OP. Anyway, for my mouse C&P does work using the wheel button and xfce4-clipman-plugin isn't installed.
Hm? Pete, what WM/DE (version) and clipboard are you using?
Morning Well here in the UK it is and a frosty one at that . System is as the sig block below states This Logitech has always worked very well press and hood left button highlight the text you want place mouse where you want the text left click then left & right together text pasted , That is what i want to get back i do a lot of web site bashing for my car club so C & P saves me literally hours of typing Pete . -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-1-ARCH AMD 64 bit KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 08:42:06 up 20:17, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.04, 0.05
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 08:50 +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Sunday 15 Jan 2012 01:38:17 Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 16:13 -0800, Don Juan wrote:
See if you have xfce4-clipman-plugin installed if not maybe try installing it. May be the missing ilnk for you or may be the cause of the problem if installed. Not sure what else to look at if the other suggestions dont work.
I'm not the OP. Anyway, for my mouse C&P does work using the wheel button and xfce4-clipman-plugin isn't installed.
Hm? Pete, what WM/DE (version) and clipboard are you using?
Morning
Well here in the UK it is and a frosty one at that .
System is as the sig block below states
This Logitech has always worked very well press and hood left button highlight the text you want place mouse where you want the text left click then left & right together text pasted , That is what i want to get back i do a lot of web site bashing for my car club so C & P saves me literally hours of typing
Pete .
Left & right together has no effect here too, I need to push the wheel button.
From what files is xfce4-mouse-settings getting it's information, resp. to what files are changes written? Regarding to the buttons the GUI only displays right handed and left handed. There should be a file, not xorg.conf, that includes settings for the buttons.
Regards, Ralf
Left & right together has no effect here too, I need to push the wheel button.
Is this not the true 3-button mouse setup?
From what files is xfce4-mouse-settings getting it's information, resp. to what files are changes written? Regarding to the buttons the GUI only displays right handed and left handed. There should be a file, not xorg.conf, that includes settings for the buttons.
The copy and paste buffer used by highlight and click is available even if you just use xterm in your .xinitrc, so I imagine the configuration for it would be somewhere in xorg.conf.d/ . Peter, could you test out your configuration with just Xserver and xterm instead of a full manager? Could you also please run xev, and when the white square appears, click in the box with the various combinations of clicking that you use (e.g. one left click, one right click, one middle click) and post the relevant output? Do let us know the combination of button presses that you use. MAQ.
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 09:58 -0500, Qadri wrote:
Left & right together has no effect here too, I need to push the wheel button.
Is this not the true 3-button mouse setup?
This is default I get most of the times for Linux installs. For me this sometimes cause trouble, since the wheel button easily unintended could be pushed.
From what files is xfce4-mouse-settings getting it's information, resp. to what files are changes written? Regarding to the buttons the GUI only displays right handed and left handed. There should be a file, not xorg.conf, that includes settings for the buttons.
The copy and paste buffer used by highlight and click is available even if you just use xterm in your .xinitrc, so I imagine the configuration for it would be somewhere in xorg.conf.d/ .
Peter, could you test out your configuration with just Xserver and xterm instead of a full manager? Could you also please run xev, and when the white square appears, click in the box with the various combinations of clicking that you use (e.g. one left click, one right click, one middle click) and post the relevant output? Do let us know the combination of button presses that you use.
MAQ.
I suspect that Pete's mouse has got no middle click [1]. FWIW on my system there are no entries regarding to the mouse in .xinitrc and xorg.conf.d/. Regards, Ralf [1] http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=Logitech+Marble +Mouse&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1133l1133l0l1474l1l1l0l0l0l0l103l103l0.1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1152&bih=727&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Be0ST5-zL8rLsgbYm9gT
On Sunday 15 Jan 2012 16:24:34 Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 09:58 -0500, Qadri wrote:
Left & right together has no effect here too, I need to push the wheel button.
Is this not the true 3-button mouse setup?
This is default I get most of the times for Linux installs. For me this sometimes cause trouble, since the wheel button easily unintended could be pushed.
From what files is xfce4-mouse-settings getting it's information, resp. to what files are changes written? Regarding to the buttons the GUI only displays right handed and left handed. There should be a file, not xorg.conf, that includes settings for the buttons.
The copy and paste buffer used by highlight and click is available even if you just use xterm in your .xinitrc, so I imagine the configuration for it would be somewhere in xorg.conf.d/ .
Peter, could you test out your configuration with just Xserver and xterm instead of a full manager? Could you also please run xev, and when the white square appears, click in the box with the various combinations of clicking that you use (e.g. one left click, one right click, one middle click) and post the relevant output? Do let us know the combination of button presses that you use. I did actually come up in X with 2 xterminals when i first installed this and had a play and C & P was not working then i will have a play in Xev and see what happens and get back to you
MAQ.
I suspect that Pete's mouse has got no middle click [1]. FWIW on my system there are no entries regarding to the mouse in .xinitrc and xorg.conf.d/.
No the Logitech Marble MOuse has 4 buttons and a big ball the 2 larger buttons are the standard mouse buttons the 2 smaller ones are supposed to be backwards and forwards (web browser use ) the ball has no click function so in some respects it is a 2 button mouse (i do not use the 2 small buttons at all)
Regards,
Ralf
[1] http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=Logitech+Marble +Mouse&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1133l1133l0l1474l1l1l0l0l0l0l103l103l0.1l1l0&bav=on.2, or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1152&bih=727&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N& tab=wi&ei=Be0ST5-zL8rLsgbYm9gT
Cheers Pete . -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-1-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 17:39:48 up 1 day, 5:15, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
Right then Big thanks to everyone got it solved the last thing i would have thought of the USB port just switched it to another USB port ( USB 1.1) from a USB 2.0 port and instant sucsess methinks this mother board has got to go There is one more issue i will open a thread on later on tonight Cheers to all Pete -- Powered by Kernel: 3.1.9-1-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 18:30:41 up 1 day, 6:06, 5 users, load average: 0.03, 0.07, 0.05
I am used to just grabing with the mouse and pasting straight to the relevent place without the un wanted extra steps i believe it need an mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d but cant find any info on creating one any help please
Did you check out https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Logitech_Marble_Mouse? If nothing there helps, perhaps you should check out the results of clicking with xev to make sure the assumed commands are being sent. ButtonPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x2600001, root 0x15e, subw 0x0, time 7374878, (85,87), root:(928,197), state 0x0, button 1, same_screen YES I get button 1 for the left button, 3 for the right, and 2 for the emulated middle click (off a laptop's mousepad buttons). MAQ.
On Saturday 14 Jan 2012 18:46:12 Qadri wrote:
I am used to just grabing with the mouse and pasting straight to the relevent place without the un wanted extra steps i believe it need an mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d but cant find any info on creating one any help please
Did you check out https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Logitech_Marble_Mouse?
If nothing there helps, perhaps you should check out the results of clicking with xev to make sure the assumed commands are being sent.
ButtonPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x2600001, root 0x15e, subw 0x0, time 7374878, (85,87), root:(928,197), state 0x0, button 1, same_screen YES
I get button 1 for the left button, 3 for the right, and 2 for the emulated middle click (off a laptop's mousepad buttons).
MAQ.
Hi thanks for the link i had looked on the wiki but had not found that bit but it does not work any how , Whish i had kept the configs from the suse install as that worked a treat i will have to have a play with it see if i can find the right settings for it .. Thanks Pete .
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Don Juan
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Qadri
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