[arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default. Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1&pagenum=1 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it. Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building... Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized. So, on non-english systems people have a "language mix" in TB... -- Regards Juergen
On 12/15/2009 12:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default. Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1&pagenum=1 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it. Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building... Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized. So, on non-english systems people have a "language mix" in TB...
Yep, Got hit with it tonight myself. Scarred the heck out of me since it picked up my old lightning config. The strange part is that I have had lightning disabled for at least a year since updating tbird to version 2.x which broke lightning integration. Easiest way to handle it is to go to tool -> add-ons -> extensions and 'disable' or 'remove' lightning. I just disabled it for the time being. That got rid of the error message: An error was encountered preparing the calendar located at moz-profile-calendar:// for use. It will not be available. Error code: 0x80004005 Description [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [mozIStorageStatement.reset]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0/extensions/%7Be2fd4-76b-420-bd-a41df33103D/modules/calStorageUpgrade.jsm :: ensureUpdatedTimezones :: line 380" data: no] -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann <pillepalle@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default. Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1&pagenum=1 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it. Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building... Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized. So, on non-english systems people have a "language mix" in TB...
Thanks for doing this. I was very much missing lightning after having run the release candidates for a good month or so. Especially when considering that the lightning project doesn't build 64-bit versions of the add-on themselves (there is a "contributed" build for the latest release, but it doesn't work with TB3, there's no 64-bit nightly build). Would it not be possible to modify the TB3 PKGBUILD to spit out two packages, thunderbird and thunderbird-lightning? /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default. Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1&pagenum=1 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it. Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building... Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized. So, on non-english systems people have a "language mix" in TB...
http://hereticlinux.org/repo/i686/thunderbird-3.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz no dbus, no gnomeui, no lightning depds compatible with arch stable -- Arvid Asgaard Technologies
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Arvid Picciani <aep@exys.org> wrote:
On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default. Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1&pagenum=1 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it. Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building... Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized. So, on non-english systems people have a "language mix" in TB...
http://hereticlinux.org/repo/i686/thunderbird-3.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
no dbus, no gnomeui, no lightning depds compatible with arch stable
If you just want to give one link, please give the pkgbuild one, so that we can see what it does (and also no need to cover both architectures) : http://bitbucket.org/aep/arch-antidesktop/src/tip/thunderbird/ It was not too hard to find but it was not direct either.
On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default. Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1&pagenum=1 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it. Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building... Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized. So, on non-english systems people have a "language mix" in TB...
http://hereticlinux.org/repo/i686/thunderbird-3.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
no dbus, no gnomeui, no lightning depds compatible with arch stable
thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning. -- Ionut
On 12/15/09, Ionut Biru <biru.ionut@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
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thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.
-- Ionut
And is this good? The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64 architecture... Just wondering... -- Javier.
El 17/12/09 18:28, Javier Vasquez escribió:
On 12/15/09, Ionut Biru<biru.ionut@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
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thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.
-- Ionut
And is this good? The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64 architecture...
Just wondering...
Try to build yourself: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Comm-central_source_code_(Mercurial) -- < Joan
On 12/17/2009 07:28 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote:
And is this good? The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64 architecture...
Just wondering...
you can always use abs and add support for it. -- Ionut
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Javier Vasquez <j.e.vasquez.v@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/15/09, Ionut Biru <biru.ionut@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
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thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.
-- Ionut
And is this good? The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64 architecture...
I can see the logic behind the decision, if lightning (as shipped with TB3) is suggested to be turned off by upstream, then it's prudent to turn it off in the distro's default build too. Irritating for me, yes, but I can live with it. I put up a binary package based on a modified PKGBUILD (actually, the file that needs modifying is mozconfig) at http://therning.org/magnus_arch/thunderbird-3.0-3.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz It's what I use and it works for me. If you don't want to use the binary directly I'll be happy to post the source package for you. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
On 12/18/09, Magnus Therning <magnus@therning.org> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Javier Vasquez <j.e.vasquez.v@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/15/09, Ionut Biru <biru.ionut@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:
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thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.
-- Ionut
And is this good? The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64 architecture...
I can see the logic behind the decision, if lightning (as shipped with TB3) is suggested to be turned off by upstream, then it's prudent to turn it off in the distro's default build too. Irritating for me, yes, but I can live with it.
I put up a binary package based on a modified PKGBUILD (actually, the file that needs modifying is mozconfig) at http://therning.org/magnus_arch/thunderbird-3.0-3.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz It's what I use and it works for me. If you don't want to use the binary directly I'll be happy to post the source package for you.
/M
-- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
The change is this one, right? % diff mozconfig.1 mozconfig.2 24d23 < ac_add_options --enable-calendar I understand what you're saying. However the effect of following the recommendation is orphaning x86_64 from lightning. What seems an issue to me is not considering calendar integration (whether by add-on, or built-in) as a must for thunderbird (so far such integration for x86_64 is only possible built-in). So I can compile my own thunderbird-lightning package (already did, with the enable option before), but as the issue is that calendar integration is not consider a must for thunderbird, while it is a need for me, perhaps the best approach for me is to drop thunderbird for another e-mail client for which calendar integration is a must... If calendar integration was a must, another option might have been considered: 1.- Drop calendar support for x86_64. (selected option) 2.- Keep calendar support with 3.0 built-in. 3.- Don't update to 3.0 for x86_64 until calendar support is enabled through add-on. Any ways, I won't discuss further since answers indicate people is OK with the decision... Thanks, -- Javier.
participants (8)
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Arvid Picciani
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David C. Rankin
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Figue
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Ionut Biru
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Javier Vasquez
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Jürgen Hagemann
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Magnus Therning
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Xavier