On 18 July 2011 12:57, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@gmail.com> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@gmail.com> Date: 18 July 2011 12:50 Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] Fwd: Move kdelibs3 to [community] To: kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net

On 18 July 2011 06:36, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:

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Am 18.07.2011 12:25, schrieb Stéphane Gaudreault:

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Sergej offers to maintain it so I thought we can move it in [community], but if you are interested you can adopt qt3 and kdelibs3.

Maybe we could follow the kdelibs from Trinity [1]. I have no experience with this project, but they seems to be active. Or at least their svn repos [2] could be searched to find useful patches.

Stéphane

[1] http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ [2] http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/kdelibs/

This sounds like a good idea, better than trying to build the broken kdelibs3 code like we do now.

Hey Guys,

I am a developer and member of the Trinity Desktop team. I wanted to clear up a few points here about what the differences between old kde and trinity are as far as you are concerned. Kde3 and Trinity are NOT the same. At this point our sources and contributors have changed completely. One of our goals is to pull all of the disparate Qt3 patches to create a central, up-to-date Qt3 repository that can then be extended as necessary, and we are ready to provide upstream support for qt3. Even with our patches and addons, our qt3 is fully compatible with any qt3 programs, no API breakage whatsoever. I think it would be a great id Link to webgit of qt3: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/viewgit/index.php?a=tree&p=Trinity%20Desktop%20Environment&hb=HEAD&f=main/dependencies/qt3 Kdelibs3 on the other hand won't be so simple. There have been significant changes in the API, because we have written a abstraction layer for the Qt3 code to work with "TQt". The TQt interface will allow us to continue using the trinity desktop with newer versions of Qt. We currently are underway porting it to Qt4 too keep up to date. However for arch that means it is likely that some programs would not compile unless patched against the tqtinterface. Therefore I must recommend you do not use our kdelibs3, because we are currently unstable until the next release (due sometime in the fall) What I think would be best for everyone, is that once we release our next version, arch should look into switching to the Trinity Desktop provided kdelibs3, kdebase, kde* packages. They are more up to date and stable. I think the fact you are having trouble building old kde3 shows that it might be time to start considering other options. As far as Qt3 goes, we are completely ready and happy to provide upstream support for all distros, especially my favorite Arch. :) On behalf of the Trinity Project, Calvin Morrison