[arch-general] Intro + package maintenance
Hi all, Apologies for the long mail but do read on. My name is Aashik and i have been using Arch for the last two days. I was planning to simply try it, but decided to stick with it because i like its simplicity. Only one annoying thing happened to me. I am from India and my mother tongue is Malayalam. I tried to use scim and m17n version of malayalam input methods. There were a few glitches. I noticed that it is out of date and is currently flagged as 'orphan' when you do a package search. To be precise, the following packages. m17n-db,m17n-lib,scim-m17n There have been some commits made in the last few months from a project called SMC ( http://smc.org.in ) which enables phonetic text input in Malayalam via m17n also. I did not file a bug report because it asks everyone not to report outdated packages as bugs.Is anyone actively maintaining i686 these packages ? If not I can do it. I have spare time ( i took some time off from work ) . I don't know a thing about creating packages and things like that. If someone can answer my questions and doubts as they pop up , I can take up this task. Regards Aashik -------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 04:34:24PM +0530, aashiks wrote:
My name is Aashik and i have been using Arch for the last two days. I was planning to simply try it, but decided to stick with it because i like its simplicity. Only one annoying thing happened to me.
I am from India and my mother tongue is Malayalam. I tried to use scim and m17n version of malayalam input methods. There were a few glitches. I noticed that it is out of date and is currently flagged as 'orphan' when you do a package search. To be precise, the following packages.
m17n-db,m17n-lib,scim-m17n
There have been some commits made in the last few months from a project called SMC ( http://smc.org.in ) which enables phonetic text input in Malayalam via m17n also.
I did not file a bug report because it asks everyone not to report outdated packages as bugs.Is anyone actively maintaining i686 these packages ? If not I can do it. I have spare time ( i took some time off from work ) . I don't know a thing about creating packages and things like that. If someone can answer my questions and doubts as they pop up , I can take up this task.
Hey Aashik, If you're interested you can fetch the build files for your packages with `abs repo/pkg`. Copy those files somewhere for building, modify them, and run makepkg to build your packages. Have a look at these pages for more detailed info on the process. Cheers! http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ABS http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_User_Guidelines http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Packaging_Standards
Thanks :) I will report back with my efforts.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:55 AM, aashiks <aashiks@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks :) I will report back with my efforts.
Additionally, considering these are orphans, if you can report success or any changes here, I'm sure we can get some developer to go ahead and rebuild these packages (assuming they won't be able to do rigorous testing due to the fact that we have no developers who use scim for their native languages). Cheers, Aaron
In <d64a48980901081232g3f565327ieb21acce482700e5@mail.gmail.com>, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:55 AM, aashiks <aashiks@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks :) I will report back with my efforts.
Additionally, considering these are orphans, if you can report success or any changes here, I'm sure we can get some developer to go ahead and rebuild these packages (assuming they won't be able to do rigorous testing due to the fact that we have no developers who use scim for their native languages).
Hi Aaron, I'm using latest m17n* packages (built from my local PKGBUILD) with Emacs (CVS) without any issues. I'm interested in sharing and maintaining them, if anyone else is not. Can you tell me how do I post the PKGBUILD for inclusion in repositories ? Thanks -- Ashish SHUKLA
Hi, If you can share the PKGBUILD it will be helpful. My problem issue ( inputting Malayalam ) was solved because there was a scim-tables version of the specific inpput scheme i was looking for. I had to get the latest scim-tables ( 0.5.8 ) for it to work. I had to create a patch due to a bug , but i now have a working package now. I am attaching the patch and PKGBUILD for scim-tables 0.5.8 with this. please do check Regards, Ashik S
aashiks writes:
Hi,
Hi,
If you can share the PKGBUILD it will be helpful. My problem issue ( inputting Malayalam ) was solved because there was a scim-tables version of the specific inpput scheme i was looking for. I had to get the latest scim-tables ( 0.5.8 ) for it to work. I had to create a patch due to a bug , but i now have a working package now. I am attaching the patch and PKGBUILD for scim-tables 0.5.8 with this. please do check
Please checkout the attached PKGBUILD scripts. In case you use Emacs (CVS) from Arch's repos and having problem rendering Indic scripts, I've created a custom PKGBUILD for that too.
Regards, Ashik S
HTH -- Ashish SHUKLA
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:45:05 +0100 Subject: Re: [arch-general] Intro + package maintenance From: wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish SHUKLA) To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general@archlinux.org>
aashiks writes:
Hi,
Hi,
If you can share the PKGBUILD it will be helpful. My problem issue ( inpu= tting=20 Malayalam ) was solved because there was a scim-tables version of the spe= cific=20 inpput scheme i was looking for. I had to get the latest scim-tables ( 0.= 5.8 )=20 for it to work. I had to create a patch due to a bug , but i now have a=20 working package now. I am attaching the patch and PKGBUILD for scim-table= s=20 0.5.8 with this. please do check
Please checkout the attached PKGBUILD scripts. In case you use Emacs (CVS) from Arch's repos and having problem rendering Indic scripts, I've created a custom PKGBUILD for that too.
Regards, Ashik S
HTH =2D-=20 Ashish SHUKLA
Hi, please also have a look at emacs-otf on AUR. It comes with m17n-librarys. Regards
Hi all, I checked the PKGBUILD scripts that Asish sent. Both scripts work correctly. The m17n-lib PKGBUILD script is correct and it correctly shows a dependency for libotf. But I couldn't find the libotf package in pacman. So I ended up using the libotf-cvs (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16709) from AUR. This libotf packages is installed as libotf-cvs, so i had to modify the PKGBUILD script for m17n-lib to use libotf-cvs instaed of libotf. So I think if the m17n-lib package has to be included in extra/community repos, the libotf package should go in also. The m17n-db script works correctly. If the m17n-libs are included, then I think it would be a very good idea to include the m17-contrib packages from AUR (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22049) also, since this includes m17n support for some widely used indic languages . I was specifically looking for Malayalam which got recently included in m17n-contrib. Thanks all for your help. Awaiting feed back from everyone. regards Aashik S
aashiks writes:
Hi all,
I checked the PKGBUILD scripts that Asish sent. Both scripts work correctly. The m17n-lib PKGBUILD script is correct and it correctly shows a dependency for libotf. But I couldn't find the libotf package in pacman. So I ended up using the libotf-cvs (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16709) from AUR. This libotf packages is installed as libotf-cvs, so i had to modify the PKGBUILD script for m17n-lib to use libotf-cvs instaed of libotf. So I think if the m17n-lib package has to be included in extra/community repos, the libotf package should go in also.
Sorry, I didn't noticed that it needed libotf also. Attached is the PKGBUILD for libotf-0.9.8. I never experienced this quick porting with any distro other than FreeBSD and ofcourse ArchLinux. This is real fun.
The m17n-db script works correctly.
If the m17n-libs are included, then I think it would be a very good idea to include the m17-contrib packages from AUR (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22049) also, since this includes m17n support for some widely used indic languages . I was specifically looking for Malayalam which got recently included in m17n-contrib.
AFAICS, Malayalam language input seems to be supported in m17n-db-1.5.2 also. What specific thing are you looking for Malyalam language like rendering of Malyalam script, input method HTH -- Ashish SHUKLA
Thanks for the libotf PKGBUILD. But as I mentioned, there is already one in AUR ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16709) . I will check this one out. i found what i was looking for in the scim-tables package. I was looking for an input method called Swanalekha. it is there in both m17n and scim- tables. I have what i need now. But since we started this we will finish it off. :) Will check the script and report back.
Hi all, @Asish , I was looking for input methods The PKGBUILD for libotf works well. So we now have PKGBUILDs for the current versions of : libotf m17n-lib m17n-db scim-tables Also , I have packaged fonts for Malayalam ( These are now in official Debian and Fedora repositories) . I have put the PKGBUILD for it in AUR ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23145 ). How do we go about ensuring that these packages make it to extra/community ? Regards, Aashik
aashiks wrote:
Hi all,
@Asish , I was looking for input methods
The PKGBUILD for libotf works well. So we now have PKGBUILDs for the current versions of :
libotf m17n-lib m17n-db scim-tables
If you are confirming these packages are all working, I can push the updates to the repos under the understanding that I really can not test them. But given the versions in the repos appear to be broken anyway, things can not get much worse... To make it easier for me, can someone either reply to this or email me directly with all four PKGBUILDs attached. Allan
Hi, The four PKGBUILDS are attached. Regards, Aashik
aashiks wrote:
Hi,
The four PKGBUILDS are attached.
Thanks, I will need scim-tables-0.5.8-header.patch too. Allan
Hi, These packages a built and uploaded for i686. Wait for you mirror to sync and then install them. I remove the skim makedepends from scim-tables as skim is no longer in the repos and I could not get it to build (it could be possible but I do not have time to really hunt down the problem). Let me know if this breaks anything (other than skim support...). Cheers, Allan
participants (7)
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Aaron Griffin
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aashiks
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Allan McRae
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Ashish SHUKLA
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Loui Chang
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stefan-husmann＠t-online.de
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wahjava.ml＠gmail.com