[arch-general] downgrades when moving out of [testing]
I typically upgrade with -uu, and use [*testing]. I've noticed lately that there is a window when a package moves out of [testing] that it will be downgraded. For example, this happened when openssh-6.2 recently moved. Are the packages being removed from [testing] before being added to e.g. [core]? Does mirroring happen separately, but faster for [testing]? (I use kernel.org). Best, Matt
On 26.03.2013 14:22, Matthew Monaco wrote:
I typically upgrade with -uu,
Now why would you do that unless you explicitly want to downgrade? This is only useful if you disable testing and want to downgrade all packages. Upgrading is only one -u.
Am 26.03.2013 14:22, schrieb Matthew Monaco:
Are the packages being removed from [testing] before being added to e.g. [core]?
I think there is not, and if there is, it is not more than a few microseconds.
Does mirroring happen separately, but faster for [testing]? (I use kernel.org).
Assuming that mirror syncing happens incrementally in alphabetical order, you will first get the updated [core] database (/core/ folder), then the updated package files (/pool/ folder) and last the updated [testing] database (/testing/ folder). I guess mirrors could even sync completely before putting everything in place, although rsync can't do that on its own, I think.
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 14:32:54 Florian Pritz wrote:
On 26.03.2013 14:22, Matthew Monaco wrote:
I typically upgrade with -uu,
Now why would you do that unless you explicitly want to downgrade? This is only useful if you disable testing and want to downgrade all packages. Upgrading is only one -u.
That is not true, usecase is, when a package is removed from [testing] (eg. found broken), pacman will not automatically sync to newest pkg in repos(core). I even suggest -uu is default use for pacman. -- Marek Otahal :o)
On 03/26/2013 07:32 AM, Florian Pritz wrote:
On 26.03.2013 14:22, Matthew Monaco wrote:
I typically upgrade with -uu,
Now why would you do that unless you explicitly want to downgrade? This is only useful if you disable testing and want to downgrade all packages. Upgrading is only one -u.
Because, often enough, packages are removed from testing and not moved into a stable repo.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 07:22:44AM -0600, Matthew Monaco wrote:
I typically upgrade with -uu, and use [*testing]. I've noticed lately that there is a window when a package moves out of [testing] that it will be downgraded.
For example, this happened when openssh-6.2 recently moved.
Are the packages being removed from [testing] before being added to e.g. [core]? Does mirroring happen separately, but faster for [testing]? (I use kernel.org).
What mirror are you using? If you are using the kernel.org mirror, stop now and choose another one. -- William Giokas | KaiSforza GnuPG Key: 0x73CD09CF Fingerprint: F73F 50EF BBE2 9846 8306 E6B8 6902 06D8 73CD 09CF
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, folks, since I switched from a wired USB headset to a bluetooth headset I've got problem - using GNOME - with flash based sites like youtube. Sound is not send to the headset but to the internal speakers of my laptop. Every other media player uses the headset for output but not flash. Does anyone know why and how to fix it ? Kind regards, Nelson. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRUfGuAAoJEL11/FaGDdNAKfIH/3kM/RNX5imRyXLNRUkQx5oX G9HKwm1AfEvuuz3STZkdeABsla66O0x1r2kh1t/nzV35eyUmBlYJPCPkslMKK/Or T68lj7XGqrfMg8+AUTNONJQGQr76Getv9siHdag1j+eD3qYyaJheTVlBzpEW9oZM aJmis+f1LkA/b3cdtJhH0U7nx7sNzgE01IRd9GrvqoQIqGgnMDAJP4YUNF15jGmt EyaMzLiADuKDqOBYpMcnXkgAYpvqKKbmUK4fgQvlExwTw/AW96EmvPqyANp9IRr9 Md5hd8aciECpsGa0X2a2Xj9xw2pVYFatEXLZGuQHGS/OI2+CSRQHUB4KIcsuzbQ= =g/9D -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 03/26/13 at 08:06pm, Nelson Marambio wrote:
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Hi, folks,
since I switched from a wired USB headset to a bluetooth headset I've got problem - using GNOME - with flash based sites like youtube. Sound is not send to the headset but to the internal speakers of my laptop.
Every other media player uses the headset for output but not flash. Does anyone know why and how to fix it ?
Kind regards, Nelson. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/
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I believe flash is not capable of using pulseaudio directly. So it uses alsa. In order to get this to work, you need to configure alsa to use pulseaudio. This is particularly easy, as the necessary configuration is the only content found in the pulseaudio-alsa package. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Flash_Content -- Curtis Shimamoto sugar.and.scruffy [at] gmail.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 27.03.2013 01:02, schrieb Curtis Shimamoto:
On 03/26/13 at 08:06pm, Nelson Marambio wrote: Hi, folks,
since I switched from a wired USB headset to a bluetooth headset I've got problem - using GNOME - with flash based sites like youtube. Sound is not send to the headset but to the internal speakers of my laptop.
Every other media player uses the headset for output but not flash. Does anyone know why and how to fix it ?
Kind regards, Nelson.
I believe flash is not capable of using pulseaudio directly. So it uses alsa. In order to get this to work, you need to configure alsa to use pulseaudio. This is particularly easy, as the necessary configuration is the only content found in the pulseaudio-alsa package.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Flash_Content
Sorry to write this but that didn't fix it - I installed pulseaudio-alsa but flash does still not use the headset. Kind regards, Nelson. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRU0sBAAoJEL11/FaGDdNAkrQH/ipdrWPxrznsbrbNyxZdDbpc 4Jqo7ZuwNxleQ8MZdPiVRLAj8Q38JTne9zoPUVAui2IMC5I+LlHb3PbAPkFwDQiv mweYArP9edeIMykp1elAVTVB4Dli4bO777tBh3XN5STSb2PG51Q2UYo4ISKt4Q5l YWlwopMNKhN4o1TJ1mlqY4uTON3BXCyD+OXVi5OjT9i3tlyoAoExeB40lc6VqFk3 wLfuFbGv6XfYJlvMrQi2eG95IOI7YuPTb6mZS9XEl0mhOXKcAd678iaoQ7w0aFPU H23QZAIw/EVWE+8nJrRTbmiDHagMXB4bh2gR48NMF0sp4Ot8GTX2VexAAYx4l54= =2ZbN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Flash_Content
Sorry to write this but that didn't fix it - I installed pulseaudio-alsa but flash does still not use the headset.
install and run pavucontrol and see if flash is using pulseaudio (it should show up in the "playback" tab) then maybe move the flash stream to the bluetooth headset device. -- дамјан
2013/3/28 Damjan
Sorry to write this but that didn't fix it - I installed pulseaudio-alsa but flash does still not use the headset.
install and run pavucontrol and see if flash is using pulseaudio (it should show up in the "playback" tab) then maybe move the flash stream to the bluetooth headset device.
You can also check if flash is using pulseaudio or alsa with this: fuser -v /dev/snd/* It should return something similar to: USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: hiciu 813 F.... pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC1: hiciu 813 F.... pulseaudio /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: hiciu 813 F...m pulseaudio -- Krzysztof Warzecha
participants (9)
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Curtis Shimamoto
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Damjan
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Florian Pritz
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Krzysztof Warzecha
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Marek Otahal
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Matthew Monaco
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Nelson Marambio
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Thomas Bächler
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William Giokas