[arch-general] Xorg 1.12 moves soon to testing for stabilization phase
New Xorg has Xinput 2.2, Mesa 8.0 and many major library updates. Expect some bugs and broken packages. Most recent Xorg stuff is used in Fedora RawHide for a while where fixes can be found. Most noticeable changes will be: - Mesa 8.0 drops 3D support for some chips. These packages are gone now: unichrome-dri, mach64-dri, mga-dri, r128-dri, savage-dri, sis-dri, tdfx-dri - I couldn't find patches to get Xorg 1.12 support in xf86-video-sisemedia and xf86-video-xgi. Both should be of very low interest (not included in FC at all). We might drop them if no fix can be found. - State of closed drivers: Nvidia has a beta pkg out with Xorg 1.12 support. Let's pray it's already in usable state. Catalyst (AUR) users will stay in the dark as on every major Xorg release for a while. -Andy
2012/2/12 Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org>
[Xorg 1.12] - State of closed drivers: Nvidia has a beta pkg out with Xorg 1.12 support. Let's pray it's already in usable state. Catalyst (AUR) users will stay in the dark as on every major Xorg release for a while.
Are nvidia beta drivers being built with this release ? I think I will do an IgnoreGroup = Xorg for some days ;)
-Andy
-- Frederic Bezies fredbezies@gmail.com
Am 12.02.2012 10:48, schrieb fredbezies:
2012/2/12 Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org>
[Xorg 1.12] - State of closed drivers: Nvidia has a beta pkg out with Xorg 1.12 support. Let's pray it's already in usable state. Catalyst (AUR) users will stay in the dark as on every major Xorg release for a while.
Are nvidia beta drivers being built with this release ? I think I will do an IgnoreGroup = Xorg for some days ;)
Yes, nvidia drivers are in the same repos. -- Pierre Schmitz, http://pierre-schmitz.com
2012/2/12 Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de>
Am 12.02.2012 10:48, schrieb fredbezies:
2012/2/12 Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org>
[Xorg 1.12] - State of closed drivers: Nvidia has a beta pkg out with Xorg 1.12 support. Let's pray it's already in usable state. Catalyst (AUR) users will stay in the dark as on every major Xorg release for a while.
Are nvidia beta drivers being built with this release ? I think I will do an IgnoreGroup = Xorg for some days ;)
Yes, nvidia drivers are in the same repos.
Ok. Even if I am an old testing user, I will wait a day or two this time :D -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies@gmail.com
Am 12.02.2012 10:39, schrieb Andreas Radke:
New Xorg has Xinput 2.2, Mesa 8.0 and many major library updates. Expect some bugs and broken packages. Most recent Xorg stuff is used in Fedora RawHide for a while where fixes can be found.
Most noticeable changes will be:
- Mesa 8.0 drops 3D support for some chips. These packages are gone now: unichrome-dri, mach64-dri, mga-dri, r128-dri, savage-dri, sis-dri, tdfx-dri - I couldn't find patches to get Xorg 1.12 support in xf86-video-sisemedia and xf86-video-xgi. Both should be of very low interest (not included in FC at all). We might drop them if no fix can be found. - State of closed drivers: Nvidia has a beta pkg out with Xorg 1.12 support. Let's pray it's already in usable state. Catalyst (AUR) users will stay in the dark as on every major Xorg release for a while.
Synaptics 1.5.99-1 is completely fucked for me. 1) Circular scrolling direction is reversed. This can't be a feature, really. 2) Speed/acceleration behaviour changed, my touchpad is now much faster than it should be (I could reconfigure that, but I shouldn't have to). 3) The cursor keeps "coasting" when I keep the finger on the touchpad but stop moving. Coasting is disabled in the settings as far as I can see (and it should only be coasting if I move towards an edge of the pad). I managed to build 1.5.0 against the newest xorg-server, but acceleration breaks then as well (touchpad is completely unaccelerated in this case). My touchpad: AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad This is a blocker for 1.12 for me.
On 02/12/2012 01:10 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Synaptics 1.5.99-1 is completely fucked for me.
1) Circular scrolling direction is reversed. This can't be a feature, really. 2) Speed/acceleration behaviour changed, my touchpad is now much faster than it should be (I could reconfigure that, but I shouldn't have to). 3) The cursor keeps "coasting" when I keep the finger on the touchpad but stop moving. Coasting is disabled in the settings as far as I can see (and it should only be coasting if I move towards an edge of the pad).
I managed to build 1.5.0 against the newest xorg-server, but acceleration breaks then as well (touchpad is completely unaccelerated in this case).
My touchpad: AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad
This is a blocker for 1.12 for me.
Another datapoint - I just updated and have no problems at all with my (different) touchpad: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad No other issues so far with xorg 1.12 - (lenovo W520 using Intel graphics). gene/
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 07:10:45PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
1) Circular scrolling direction is reversed. This can't be a feature, really. 2) Speed/acceleration behaviour changed, my touchpad is now much faster than it should be (I could reconfigure that, but I shouldn't have to). 3) The cursor keeps "coasting" when I keep the finger on the touchpad but stop moving. Coasting is disabled in the settings as far as I can see (and it should only be coasting if I move towards an edge of the pad). [...] My touchpad: AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad
I have the same issues. My touchpad: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint So, can this be a Alps only issue?
In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling. 2) Haven't noticed any speed changes, but I don't use the touchpad much, and could easily have missed this. 3) I see the same here. My touchpad: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 06:58:12PM -0200, Kazuo Teramoto wrote:
I have the same issues. My touchpad: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
So, can this be a Alps only issue?
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 07:10:45PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
1) Circular scrolling direction is reversed. This can't be a feature, really. 2) Speed/acceleration behaviour changed, my touchpad is now much faster than it should be (I could reconfigure that, but I shouldn't have to). 3) The cursor keeps "coasting" when I keep the finger on the touchpad but stop moving. Coasting is disabled in the settings as far as I can see (and it should only be coasting if I move towards an edge of the pad). [...] My touchpad: AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad
Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price:
In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling.
I didn't notice this at first, but yes, same here.
Am 13.02.2012 00:24, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price:
In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling.
I didn't notice this at first, but yes, same here.
Wrong again. It seems to change direction at will.
Am 13.02.2012 00:28, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 13.02.2012 00:24, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price:
In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling.
I didn't notice this at first, but yes, same here.
Wrong again. It seems to change direction at will.
I don't think this is a problem with synaptics. On my mouse, buttons 6 and 7 are exchanged.
I noticed after upgrading to xorg 1.12, one scroll up/down on my mouse occasionally become many scroll ups/downs On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Am 13.02.2012 00:28, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 13.02.2012 00:24, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price:
In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling.
I didn't notice this at first, but yes, same here.
Wrong again. It seems to change direction at will.
I don't think this is a problem with synaptics. On my mouse, buttons 6 and 7 are exchanged.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Am 13.02.2012 00:28, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 13.02.2012 00:24, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 13.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Ben Price:
In case it helps, here's another datapoint I am also seeing these issues. (1,2,3 as in Thomas' email) 1) In addition to circular scrolling being reversed, so is the right-edge vertical scrolling.
I didn't notice this at first, but yes, same here.
Wrong again. It seems to change direction at will.
I don't think this is a problem with synaptics. On my mouse, buttons 6 and 7 are exchanged.
I noticed after upgrading to xorg 1.12, one scroll up/down on my mouse occasionally become many scroll ups/downs
I also had this problem with the testing/xorg-server-1.11.99.903-1 package. Compiling it using the latest subversion PKGBUILD and the patch from https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45611 applied solved the problem for me. Christian.
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 07:10:45PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Synaptics 1.5.99-1 is completely fucked for me.
1) Circular scrolling direction is reversed. This can't be a feature, really. 2) Speed/acceleration behaviour changed, my touchpad is now much faster than it should be (I could reconfigure that, but I shouldn't have to). 3) The cursor keeps "coasting" when I keep the finger on the touchpad but stop moving. Coasting is disabled in the settings as far as I can see (and it should only be coasting if I move towards an edge of the pad).
Confirmed using "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" on Asus K52JT, although it remains usable if slightly annoying. -- Mantas Mikulėnas <grawity@gmail.com>
Final Xorg-server has been released. No major issues have been reported to our tracker. Touchpad issues seem all solved, right? I'm going to move this soon to extra if you don't raise any stopper. -Andy
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org> wrote:
Final Xorg-server has been released. No major issues have been reported to our tracker. Touchpad issues seem all solved, right?
I'm going to move this soon to extra if you don't raise any stopper.
-Andy
I'm still getting bursts of reverse scrolling using two-finger-scroll (synaptics). Makes trying to scroll using the touchpad highly annoying. The burst happens at the start of the scroll, iff the secondary pointer (trackpoint) has been used since the last scroll event.
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Jan Steffens <jan.steffens@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org> wrote:
Final Xorg-server has been released. No major issues have been reported to our tracker. Touchpad issues seem all solved, right?
I'm going to move this soon to extra if you don't raise any stopper.
-Andy
I'm still getting bursts of reverse scrolling using two-finger-scroll (synaptics). Makes trying to scroll using the touchpad highly annoying.
The burst happens at the start of the scroll, iff the secondary pointer (trackpoint) has been used since the last scroll event.
Can't reproduce it anymore. I think it's fixed.
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Andreas Radke
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Ben Price
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Christian Storm
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fredbezies
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Genes MailLists
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Jan Steffens
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Kazuo Teramoto
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Mantas M.
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Pierre Schmitz
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Thomas Bächler