Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] (partially) Inactive
2009/5/6 Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org>:
I am an university student so I can use from 08AM to 07PM (GMT+1) the wireless connection at my university but it is over HTTP proxy: I will cannot use ssh/cvs/git/ftp/irc/jabber protocols.
I hope to be totally active soon.
You should complain about that. In my eyes, having internet access without these basic services is no internet access at all, and whoever the admin is (or the guy who tells the admin what to do) is a moron that still lives in the past.
That's pretty normal in Italian universities. They tend to lock you out from everything, sometimes because they fear what you could do and sometimes because of nearly-fascist laws that would oblige them to log everything. Filtering out is easier, and it really helps with bureaucracy. That said, I once managed, as a student, to meet the whole IT team in my university, and in an official encounter I demanded to open at least some more ports... You see, there are exams where you *have* to use CVS/SVN for your projects, and the ports are filtered out from the inside. It's not an annoyance, it's just plain stupid: you often work with people who live very far from the city and you can't work together at the university. Well, they refused to open ports citing legislations, the need to filter p2p apps, the heaviness of level 7 filters... Heck, we didn't even have IMAP! I told them that, with https open, we could tunnel everything where we wanted. They know it and don't care, because it's a really small niche of students that can do it. I can assure you that I was very, very tempted to write an easy to use tunneling app and publish it for all the students to use. This is the situation in a country that is in the G8 ("economic power" my ass) for unknown reasons... old tech, misunderstandings and censorship. Sorry for the rant. Corrado
Hi Corrado, On 07/05/2009, bardo <ilbardo@gmail.com> wrote:
That said, I once managed, as a student, to meet the whole IT team in my university, and in an official encounter I demanded to open at least some more ports... You see, there are exams where you *have* to use CVS/SVN for your projects, and the ports are filtered out from the inside. It's not an annoyance, it's just plain stupid: you often work with people who live very far from the city and you can't work together at the university. In fact. This is the same reply which I expect from they, anyway I will try to talk with IT team of my university.
Well, they refused to open ports citing legislations, the need to filter p2p apps, the heaviness of level 7 filters... Heck, we didn't even have IMAP! I told them that, with https open, we could tunnel everything where we wanted. They know it and don't care, because it's a really small niche of students that can do it. I can assure you that I was very, very tempted to write an easy to use tunneling app and publish it for all the students to use. I tried some application as proxytunnel but with no results, but I will try again...and again...
PS. s/partially/partly!!!! LOL -- Andrea `BaSh` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
Have you guys heard of corkscrew? I can tunnel ssh through an http proxy server... In my unversity they block completely your net account if you don't report your MAC address to them. When you do, they give you a static ip. For desktop thats fine, you give them the MAC when you buy your machine, set your ip, and forget it. But for laptops its a pain. When you connect a new machine to the network, you only have access to the internal unisersity's website. Once you set up the proxy, you can go elsewhere. But the proxy is slllllooooooowww... Anyway, that does not solve your issue of incoming connection. It might for outgoing connections. I had to ask personnaly the IT dep, with support from my supervisor, for opening a single port (SSH) on our server. Lenghty process... 2009/5/7 Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>
Hi Corrado,
On 07/05/2009, bardo <ilbardo@gmail.com> wrote:
That said, I once managed, as a student, to meet the whole IT team in my university, and in an official encounter I demanded to open at least some more ports... You see, there are exams where you *have* to use CVS/SVN for your projects, and the ports are filtered out from the inside. It's not an annoyance, it's just plain stupid: you often work with people who live very far from the city and you can't work together at the university. In fact. This is the same reply which I expect from they, anyway I will try to talk with IT team of my university.
Well, they refused to open ports citing legislations, the need to filter p2p apps, the heaviness of level 7 filters... Heck, we didn't even have IMAP! I told them that, with https open, we could tunnel everything where we wanted. They know it and don't care, because it's a really small niche of students that can do it. I can assure you that I was very, very tempted to write an easy to use tunneling app and publish it for all the students to use. I tried some application as proxytunnel but with no results, but I will try again...and again...
PS. s/partially/partly!!!! LOL
-- Andrea `BaSh` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
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Andrea Scarpino
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bardo
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Nicolas Bigaouette